http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=293959&star=1#2777410
Q:问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
A:
纽约众大学中有三大系统:私立,州立,与市立私立有超强牛校如哥大NYU,也有排在州立与市立后面的学校而除了私立名校外综合来说州立又较市立学校好州立名校有四大: Buffalo,Albany, Stony Brook,及Binghamton 市立大学也一堆,但就属CUNY最有名CUNY若要讲MBA 是综合性基础管理课程选择不像州立学校那么多, 课程设计的深度也主要以入门概念式教学为主适合刚工作一两年的基础商学训练就自身内部课程比较财务稍比营销来的见长财务相关校友也多主要是地利优势在纽约市因此财务人士居多学费与课程价值而言不像前面学校那般高效能一门课四学分没修几门就毕业念的快出来也快GMAT大约600~650左右就能进去就读
工作经验也不很要求
一两年就能念
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[Career Explorer]有必要换工作吗？ (v)
Q:
畢業之後在一家不大的英國金融公司工作，工作環境輕鬆，薪水也不錯。
最近拿到一個HSBC匯豐銀行（北京）的OFFER。因為在積累工作經驗，還沒有申請過，不知道在HSBC工作會不會給將來申請美國的MBA增加一個砝碼。
而且計劃08年年底就申請，矛盾啊。。。年底就申請了，不知道現在還換工作到HSBC是不是在折騰。
真不知道有沒有必要。
前輩們給我點意見吧。
A:
要小心這裡出現倒果為因的現象
MBA不是一個追尋目標
而是一個訓練過程
申請人要知道未來生涯目標是要去哪裡
因為中間沒有其他方式能比MBA更快速有效達到這項目標
因此需要MBA
並仔細解釋為什麼會必須經過某特定學校MBA的訓練
公司名或是頭銜本身並不會有什麼加分或減分的效果
MBA申請也不是靠誰公司大頭銜大就進的去
除了職務內容要看轉職的目的為何
是因為目前工作內容只專精於某幾塊
有某些瓶頸無法突破
需要經過轉到新的職位取得補強
而新的職務內容跟舊有的職務內容結合
可以讓您往未來生涯方向更上層樓
而透過xx學校的MBA
可以將您這兩項工作所累積的經驗深度與廣度作提煉
讓您未來成為更有效的經理人
因此必須要找出工作細項的需求點與轉折點
跟未來生涯方向的關係
以及與新職務的細項邏輯來做媒合
如果會產生對生涯方向有更大效益的發展
並讓申請人對MBA能有更強吸收能力
這樣轉才有益處
[Program Fitting]Choices: what to do?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74410.1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
[Program Fitting]BW ranking criteria
Just found this critical article on BW B-School Forum:
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
[Program Fitting]Thunderbird
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74419
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
[Personal Branding]申請前20大MBA，GPA 2.9 問題一問！ (v)
Q:
Dear all, 我這樣問其實不是很好，希望各位見諒！
Dear all, 我這樣問其實不是很好，希望各位見諒！
1. GPA 1.1 我大學是念物理系（台南火車站旁），就我所知物理系當得很凶，我畢業的時候班上有一半以上都不見了！而且留下的成績大概多是60-80分（也是有很優秀的,我是比較混的那個）......基本上, GPA要上3.0以上我個人認為不容易......
這樣申請B-school不是很吃虧？ GPA 2.9唉~~~
1.2 我已經拿到理工碩士（也是台南火車站這間），算一算GPA接近4。
當然這沒什麼, 因為研究所本來分數就給的高！
但是這會有加分效果？我查過網路, 衆說紛紜到底實際是？
2. W/E 工作明年滿五年（R&D），其中額外兼差sales約3年。
這些都可以寫在resume裡嗎？會不會有反效果？
3. GMAT target 700，IBT target 100。準備時間1-2年，希望可以彌補GPA缺憾
4. 沒推薦信OK嗎？ 還是要去應湊？
謝謝各位不勝其擾的閱讀。
A:
根據成功幫助眾多大學GPA<3的個案拿過Top 20 MBA獎學金的經驗，有研究所GPA遠高過大學GPA就夠了！
A:
根據成功幫助眾多大學GPA<3的個案拿過Top 20 MBA獎學金的經驗，有研究所GPA遠高過大學GPA就夠了！
雖說排名的評分基準是大家都有的大學GPA，但因為研究所難度更高，因此最後學歷更能證明有進階學術能力。也因此大學成績就不會太看了。
反而是會因此出現大幅進步的傾向。其實母校也都知道這點，因此才會這樣安排。
如果被問到時，倒是可以解釋一下有哪些課餘活動的價值大於大學課業。
重點是美式MBA不是靠加分進去的，而是看申請人有多大潛能，並有多強資歷應證。
疫情前一切都要有GMAT之後再說。誰都是target 700，但target就只是target。
重點是美式MBA不是靠加分進去的，而是看申請人有多大潛能，並有多強資歷應證。
疫情前一切都要有GMAT之後再說。誰都是target 700，但target就只是target。
但疫情後，有許多頂尖名校提供免試入學方案。
在美國兼差是很常有的事，只要合法都行。
在美國兼差是很常有的事，只要合法都行。
可以寫上去沒問題。要能夠解釋為何需要兼差，又對生涯有何意義？或是有何對生命的體悟？
除了少數免推薦信的學校為了吸引富二代以外，其他學校有要求推薦信的話，沒推薦信會直接拒。
除了少數免推薦信的學校為了吸引富二代以外，其他學校有要求推薦信的話，沒推薦信會直接拒。
既然工作五年，一定會有推荐信。請合作過的部門主管與高階經理、或客戶都行。
而要想上Top 20 MBA名校，推薦信必須要相當紮實。
而要想上Top 20 MBA名校，推薦信必須要相當紮實。
要對申請人的生涯方向清晰構連，講出申請人有何特殊優勢或成功特質，可以進入名校就讀後，成就大業。
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