Q:
(Modified from original wording.)
To DavidLee
Could you make a conclusion about what you said above:
Age is not the problem. The problem is so called "decent essays" are not good enough to persuade HBS that he is a 'philanthropist' or 'future leader of community'?
Thanks
A:
The conclusion is applicants need to convince adcoms why you can lead the school forward in global scale
age is never the problem
but the geometric progression you've grown in the career as equivalent
how high you've climbed and how hard you've hit the ground in those years
supposingly general college students graduate at the age of 22
at the age of 30, there're 8 solid years to thrive your career
even masters would have at least 6 solid year
for general college graduates, the time allows you to go through the career accommodation period for the first year and a half or so
then another couple of years to accumulate the cross-displinary specilizations for managerment preparation
being promoted to managerial responsibility at the faster third year or slower 4th year (if you stuck, it means your leadership style is still adjusting)
then at the 6-year line your experience should be ready or semi-ready for a senior manager position
with a master degree, this career curve should be steeper 20%~30%
and the scope should be broadened to regional market level
if you're an entrepreneur, 8 years time is absolutely enough for at least failed twice and now thrive the third start-up
especially for HBS applicants
at the year of 30, adcoms are expecting early executive mindset from applicants
global-scale leadership should be demonstrated multiple times
and at some point of your career
there should be some signs proving "game-changing" leadership
it's a very reasonable prerequisite for HBS
in my experience as MBA career consultant in NSHMBA
a 27 year-old lady in Kellogg MBA, undergraduate from Stanford, before MBA she already completed the corporate yearly R&D plan for her spaceship equipment company supplying NASA, approved by the her board of directors
a 350-page yearly plan, it's literally a thick book
another Indian graduate from Wharton MBA, should be younger than 30 based on his appearance and figure (probably 28 or 29)
excellent English without accent, perfect resume, expressed himself orally very clearly with perfect wording
easily tell he practiced at least hundreds of times
before MBA, he thrived in operation management in IBM during his very early career, extremely consistent career path
in his resume, the first points of each position are all the same
"Being promoted in 4 months to next level"
"Being promoted in 6 months to next level"
"Being promoted in 9 months to next level"
before MBA, he was already senior operation manager in IBM
although I adviced him to add some objectives on these bullets or take them off (you don't get promoted for no reason)
the gentleman insisted to leave them there
another very young Wharton MBA, 27 years old
Lehman Brother senior analyst, fortunately entered Wharton before crisis
at least 200+ financial analysis and reporting experience
multiple promotions toward investment banking before crisis
all these examples reach higher and faster before age of 30
and when you meet these people in person
you'll be blown away by their enthusiasm
their world-changing mentality
and extremely solid skills, both technical and managerial
but no arrogance at all
all of these young superstars are very friendly
passionate to help people around
and you can tell that's why they got promoted so fast
hope these examples can help
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[Personal Branding] Decent essay??
Most of time when applicants refer the so-called "decent essays"
when you really do some deeper research on those "essay guides" lying quietly in the nearest book store at the corner of your street
you'll know the ones people refer to are actually not that decent
and most of time far away from the criteria b-schools are looking for
for the common myth about community service
it's not necessary
and won't necessarily prove the applicant a philanthropist
it's about the mentality behind
the authentic empathy
and the whys
only when these question behind questions (QBQ) link together with your entrepreneurial personality will adcoms believe you do things for humanity reasons
the most deadly mentality is to display everything you have on the table and wait for a miracle
it's not an auction, nor a slave sale
it's like the school is a carriage and these students are the horses pulling in the front
YOU are the leader who lead the school forward and change the world
not waiting for the schools to change you
when you really do some deeper research on those "essay guides" lying quietly in the nearest book store at the corner of your street
you'll know the ones people refer to are actually not that decent
and most of time far away from the criteria b-schools are looking for
for the common myth about community service
it's not necessary
and won't necessarily prove the applicant a philanthropist
it's about the mentality behind
the authentic empathy
and the whys
only when these question behind questions (QBQ) link together with your entrepreneurial personality will adcoms believe you do things for humanity reasons
the most deadly mentality is to display everything you have on the table and wait for a miracle
it's not an auction, nor a slave sale
it's like the school is a carriage and these students are the horses pulling in the front
YOU are the leader who lead the school forward and change the world
not waiting for the schools to change you
[Program Fitting] Don't understand HBS...
Q:
quote from BW:
"I’m
having a really difficult time understanding how these selections are made and in particular the emphasis on age. If you are 27+ and have great “real world” accomplishments, we do not want you in our student body because it is presumed you clearly do not need an MBA to be successful. If you are young, we like you because we can still mold you into something great, even though your accomplishments are working later hours and getting“A’s” on your Calculus exam.
How is this really selecting the most likely success stories? What kind of contribution and input are they really bringing into the classroom if they are fresh out of school or have 2 yrs of experience in the classroom?
Bottom line is that MBA schools are one big business. If you believe that, (and you are in denial if you don’t), then how is this helping you
secure big endowment checks from your alumni in the future: Go with the already successful 27yr old + or take a gamble on rising stars?.
At the end of the day, does the 2-3yr age gap make a difference in the big picture? We both have 40-50yrs to live!"
A:
as you look into HBS's curriculum
it's easy to tell their 2 forks are heading toward more entrepreneurial and more leadership in organizational restructuring
especially for conglomerate
and due to their academic role on the extreme end
they're looking for some explosive signs indicating leadfrog career
something significant on historical standpoint that nobody had done before
either extremely rare or extremely fast
although LZ is the youngest project manager in the industry
at the age of 30 they're looking for signs on more strategic on corporate scope
or some indication about early executive mindset
since their college drop-out is the richest guy in the world for 1.5 decade
and not even 50 yet
for a globally dominant school like HBS
nothing is too successful to be educated from them
it's about your mentality to do something as worldwide leader
with an extremely steep learning curve
see the successful HBS essays
you'll literally find many people at the age of 30 had already approached regional-director level
or done something revolutionary at their mid-20s
the intensity should be game-changing
not only a youngest something that many people had done even faster before
quote from BW:
"I’m
having a really difficult time understanding how these selections are made and in particular the emphasis on age. If you are 27+ and have great “real world” accomplishments, we do not want you in our student body because it is presumed you clearly do not need an MBA to be successful. If you are young, we like you because we can still mold you into something great, even though your accomplishments are working later hours and getting“A’s” on your Calculus exam.
How is this really selecting the most likely success stories? What kind of contribution and input are they really bringing into the classroom if they are fresh out of school or have 2 yrs of experience in the classroom?
Bottom line is that MBA schools are one big business. If you believe that, (and you are in denial if you don’t), then how is this helping you
secure big endowment checks from your alumni in the future: Go with the already successful 27yr old + or take a gamble on rising stars?.
At the end of the day, does the 2-3yr age gap make a difference in the big picture? We both have 40-50yrs to live!"
A:
as you look into HBS's curriculum
it's easy to tell their 2 forks are heading toward more entrepreneurial and more leadership in organizational restructuring
especially for conglomerate
and due to their academic role on the extreme end
they're looking for some explosive signs indicating leadfrog career
something significant on historical standpoint that nobody had done before
either extremely rare or extremely fast
although LZ is the youngest project manager in the industry
at the age of 30 they're looking for signs on more strategic on corporate scope
or some indication about early executive mindset
since their college drop-out is the richest guy in the world for 1.5 decade
and not even 50 yet
for a globally dominant school like HBS
nothing is too successful to be educated from them
it's about your mentality to do something as worldwide leader
with an extremely steep learning curve
see the successful HBS essays
you'll literally find many people at the age of 30 had already approached regional-director level
or done something revolutionary at their mid-20s
the intensity should be game-changing
not only a youngest something that many people had done even faster before
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