[Career Explorer]應該申請排名多少的學校??? (Cont'd.)

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Q: 應該申請排名多少的學校??? (Cont'd.)
70-80% is still pretty solid. It is no guaranteed that you will be admitted for sure especially you are talking about those top schools.

A:
yah, you're right
even a 70% is a great chance

unfortunately, this competitive gentleman just got ding from Kellogg and Columbia

[Career Explorer]應該申請排名多少的學校???

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Q:
想請問傷心咖啡店上面的前輩們，在申請學校前你們是用什麼標準來選學校呢？應該要申請排名多少的學校呢？ 我的條件： 新竹交流道附近大學工學院大四中 GPA四年下來3.4，大一太混，大二以後主科大多有4.0 GRE考了去年10月的，V 500 Q 800 AWA 4.0 TOEFL還沒去考，只考過TOEIC 然後就只有做專題，校內活動就只有當班上跟系上幹部而已 條件如此單薄的我究竟要申請top多少的學校呢？感覺申請top 20的肯定不會上，但是又不知道自己的底限在哪‧希望板上有經驗的前輩們能夠推薦我一些適合的學校

A:
are you talking about MBA?
several directions
work first for a least 4~5 years if you really want top 20

have the right exams
MBA requires GMAT not GRE
TOEFL is almost 10 times harder than TOEIC now

finally and the most importantly
for your advance studying and for your life-long career
what's your career vision and why mba
or why study anyway?

see what your competition may look like
an Indian applicant from Businessweek forum asked me the chance to get admission 2 weeks ago
tech background applying Stanford
GMAT 710, English native of sourse
master degree from one of the best college in India
10 years experience in consulting industry, senior consultant
Coke India intern
had work for GE Capital and Tata Steel, should be the 2nd largest company in India
full page of extracurricular
fluent in Russian
flying license, piloting as hobby

I replied probably only 70~80% since his career direction is still somewhat blur
see the analysis here http://mbacareerfitter.blogspot.com/2008/02/personal-brandingstanford-application.html
it's just too competitive if you see what happened on BW forum

just be more prepared.

[Program Fitting]Darden Vs. Duke - Which is better?

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Q:
(Anyone who wants to get into Strategy consulting - which is better - Duke or Darden? I have admits from both and have a tough time deciding..... )
Thank you very much davidlee0222. For some reason the Darden class links you posted don't work, can you send them again? Thanks in advance.

A:
http://registrar.darden.virginia.edu/registrar-student/catalog/SearchCatalog.tap
put your desire years and all finance fields under MBA and submit
you'll get a long list
then compare one by one with Fuqua on each field
you'll see the subtle difference
but I agree that no big difference between Fuqua and Darden
graduates will get finance jobs because of either one, and will not be an excuse for no job from either one

[Program Fitting]选出你心目中最喜欢的学校（每人三票）

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Q:
选出你心目中最喜欢的学校：
看看大家心中最梦想去的学校是哪些。请注意，是选择你最偏好的三所学校，不一定是你所认为的实力最强的学校。
没想到这个帖子这么久了还有人回应。多谢大家了。希望这个结果能给大家选校一点点参考。

A:
In the U.S.
it's all about fit for your career
not about which one is the most popular

Every school here has its own strengths and specific differentiation
You can see in their mission statements from Deans
and take a deep look into their program designs

If you summarize the curriculum of each school into one sentence
my personal interpretation is probably like this:

HBS is corporate restructuring and entrepreneurship
Wharton is well-balanced general management
Stanford is entrepreneurial general management
Kellogg is stratigic marketing management
Chicago is economic management

MIT is executional management science
Columbia is entrepreneurship and finance management
Ross is strategic management practices
Duke is fundamental general management with medical strength
Berkeley is environmental general management with tech

VirginiaDarden is quantitative general management
Dartmouth Tuck is strategic management with finance strength
NYU Stern is practical finance management
UCLA is entrepreneurial general management with tech and entertainment strengths
Cornell Johnson is analytical social management

Yale SOM is organizational management for managers
Austin McCombs is general management with accounting strength
USC Marshall is general management
LBS is strategic management
Insead is economic strategy management

IMD is leadership menegement
Queens is analytical strategic management

It's hard to vote the favorate 3
while finding the fit is the ultimate goal

[Career Explorer][讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的MBA项目(2)

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Q:
[讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的MBA项目
采购历来不是一个热门的职业
在很多公司里地位也不重要
但是我有心在这个行业里发展
不知道有没有采购背景申请MBA成功的范例呢？ 有没有哪位了解，有哪些MBA项目可以选择～～
谢谢

A:
Also, different schools may have different catagories for procurement
some schools catogorize it in "logistics,"
some put it in "operation" if they don't have supply chain or logistics major.
some even put it in "Sales and Negotiation" and overlap with operation.
generally speaking, prioritize your searching for specialization by:
1. Logistics, (it's a more advanced classification within supply chain)
2. Supply Chain,
3. Operation Management
4. Sales & Negotiation
You can find these under "Curriculum" and then "Specialization" in every school

[Career Explorer]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的MBA项目

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Q:
[讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的MBA项目
采购历来不是一个热门的职业
在很多公司里地位也不重要
但是我有心在这个行业里发展
不知道有没有采购背景申请MBA成功的范例呢？ 有没有哪位了解，有哪些MBA项目可以选择～～
谢谢

A:
Generally procurement has lots to do with supply chain, operation, channel management, logistics, and negotiation.

Also a minor accounting and finance.

you need to know the overall framework of operation and supply chain,
lots of power and negotiation, as well as the concepts of economy of scale and finance, i.e. the time value of capital.

Sales and inventory management are related issues that you may need to co-manage with operation manager.

Teamwork skills and communication skills are constantly facilitated
Also the leadership to drive success in the net of cost structure.

Procurement is a common background for MBA applicants. Maybe fewer than other major backgrounds like planing and business development or consulting, but still common.

[Career Explorer]请大家帮我分析一下我的背景

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Q:
[求助]请大家帮我分析一下我的背景
我的背景如下，请大家帮我分析一下，是否有机会进入北美TOP20且以金融为方向的MBA项目。谢谢 （我打算申请09年开始的项目）
GMAT：720 / 4.5 (有点重考的打算，正在犹豫）
TOEFL：111
06年毕业于北京大学，主修西班牙语语言文学，第二学位经济学。前者GPA约3.7，后者3.0
工作经历：至今约两年，在一家西班牙投资咨询公司的上海代表处（小公司，和当地的地区政府有合作关系）。其间在西班牙工作3个月。我的职务是consultant，一般是做一些研究报告、市场调查，以及找寻经销商、供应商，还有参与展会。MBA的项目对我来说能提供一个从西语商务社会局限中跳出来的机会。
自我分析：我觉得软肋在于我的工作经历，比较短且、没有做过大项目、且有文化局限性，这使我在Essay中可采用的比较strong的素材有限。今年的申请期再过几个月就开始了，有点彷徨。请大家帮我做个分析，也欢迎一切建议。

A:
no necessity to retake GMAT
your experience is brilliant but way too young for top 20

there're several turning points need to be clarified in your career
why you took Spanish as your major instead of Economy
and what's the correlation among your major, minor, consulting experience, and your future career in finance?

why now? you made an assumption that other dimensions of life are subject to your mba study.
but the truth is not. Here I assume you're talking about your balance in family life.
You can see the typical student profile of any mba schools. A big portion of them build family at the same time or even earlier. Almost a half of mba students in Ross Business School bring their children.

You have quite unusual foreign experience that can make you stand out from the pack. It's not about how big your achievement is, but how deep the quality is and its meaning to your life.

The last one is the passion. Why finance? Is there anything in your personality or interests lead you to finance? Are you sensitive to money? Are you also good at numbers? Do you invest by yourself? make any profit? How do you manage your own money anyway?

There must be some triggers in your life to give you directions. Find them and leverage them well. It's not about getting into what mba, it's about your rest-of-life career.
As long as you can find out these answers, the fit schools will emerge by themselves.
then you can market yourself accordingly.

[Career Explorer]问一个有做sales和marketing的管培出去MBA的么

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Q:
问一个有做sales和marketing的管培出去MBA的么
我刚做一个top的快消管培，问下。。。。师兄师姐站出来啊！！

A:
Sales and Marketing are almost the best start for real-world business
and hence are two of the most favorite fields for MBA track
since you'll have the training about the market insights
and also really immerse yourself into the customer interaction
You'll deeply understand the market reality and power negotiation
also you'll know how important CRM and brand management are
Everything in business builts on income cash flow
only when you experience the real-world sales and marketing processes
will you know the origin of the whole industrial value chain
and understand how to correlate all these elements to optimize the profit.
You can see the student body of almost every mba program
it's common to see around 20% are sales and marketing related background

[Career Explorer]多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦？

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Q:
多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦？
虽然说一切皆有可能，环顾四周我们甚至也能看到不少岁数不小却进了投行、咨询的个案，但是亲爱的朋友，我们的抉择还是要建立在行业潜规则和统计概率的基础上的。
因为没做过投行、也没做过咨询，所以想征询一下达人，MBA毕业多大岁数时应该挥眉耐耍?0岁？32？35？
3x

A:
See what happened in consulting industry this year
only 20+ fresh MBA got in BCG in Greater China
see how many consulting firms out there
and see how many people are applying mba every year

simply see how many members on this website
devide by the years it runs
the posibility is about 10 consultants out of 10,000 applicants
it's not about the age
it's about how competitive you are

and if you want to be a consultant
first thing is to be able to analyze yourself
analyze your own career
if you cannot handle your very own career
how can you analyze anything else?

[Career Explorer]What did I do Wrong!?

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With the application increase this year, I am really losing hope on my chance to get in an MBA class of 2010. I know that my mainweakness is my GMAT i score high in quant and extremely low in verbal total to 650 and even worse I am an international student. But I thought i had good background 3.54 UG/currently 3.5yrs work exp in Brokerage firm in the US/ co manage a small manufacturer in Thailand/ and a couple volunteer experience that are actually meaningful to me as a person. Also I have a clear goal of where i want to be post MBA and my ultimate goal is to better lives of people in South East Asia thru my consulting firm and I thought they would look over my flaw for my unique background. BUT AGAIN....I got dinged from CHicago and Wharton ALREADY and now I wonder how will i make it at YALE, CORNELL, DARDEN, MIT, and DUKE???? I'm thinking of studying for gmat and get my score up to 730+ , but seriously guys, what are my chances of the rest of the schools I apply to? and Plus I cant reapply unless i know what i did wrong beside the GMAT part? This is costing me some serious money and heartache already hmmm Pls Advice!

A:
You did nothing wrong, but frankly not in the main battle field. Even you get a 730 in GMAT, you're still not in the core competition since your work experience is still too weak compare to the almost-6-yr-in-average pool. Even a 9-yr may get a ding. GMAT is essential but not critical, instead it's your career path, the overall quality of essays for fit programs, and the deep touch of your life. Those extracurriculars are not like a check list but how you interpret the love of your life.

You have several key fields regarding your overall application package need to be improved, despite your GMAT score and work experience. First is your career objectives and the "fit" of an MBA program. The schools you applied are dramatically different in either their positionings or strengths. They reflect your career objectives and goals must be quite blur that the fit schools didn't emerge by themselves. This issue alone can fail you in any application.

Second is your myth. MBA is not a goal, it's a training process. The best schools have the most resources and highest quality faculty, but it doesn't mean you know how to use it. Harvard is a great title to make you a bigger chance to have interviews, but recruiters hire people because of you, not the school name.

Third is your competitiveness. If only 2 dings from those heaven schools can frustrate you like this, you might feel very lucky to be dinged. In those schools, every second is war. If you've been to Harvard, you'll feel the extreme tension starts from the sub station. You can sense a very uncomfortable atmosphere that about 3 people out of 10 don't dare to look at you in the eyes, even you're only a tourist. It's very clear that many of them their confidences are completely crashed by other extremely competent classmates. It's pretty easy to meet someone with full score GMAT or TOEFL on campus, or both, and others have Ph.D already or Olympic titles. Just walk through the cafe shop you'll see the case page they study is all in black that hundreds lines of notes. How can they get a 650 GMAT? It has to be 800!! If you're not from another planet also, don't even try to ruin your life. There're good reasons that recruiters like big titles, but also better reasons to hate them.

The last one is your attitude. Career competence is intrinsic that lies in your personality and your capabilities, not extrinsic from a school name or from a score. You perform extracurriculars for those needed people, not for a school admission. People success by themselves, not given by others. Schools have different positionings and it depends on which one is your true fit, also how smart you leverage it. People not from top schools don't need to die, instead they have better agility and flexibility that no need to compete with imposible rivals and have more time to focus on their own paths.