2008年3月26日 星期三

[Career Explorer]我是问题大全:GPA低2.5,工作经验短一年半,辞职备考有GAP

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=312637&star=1#2838671
Q:
大学是211外语院校,大学荒废gpa2.5,学校比较严格,据说不能删除成绩不好的科目。
工作1年半,第一个工作公司不正规,8个月时辞职。第二个工作是外企协会,做两个部门总监的助理,干了一年,其间机遇不错,得到给500强企业的销售人员做职业道德培训的机会,这可能是工作经验中唯一的亮点了。
但由于每个周末都飞各个城市培训,搞的我身体很疲惫并且根本没有时间复习GT。所以头脑一热在年前辞了职,准备专心备考,争取用好的GT成绩弥补GPA的不足。6月的G,7月的T。如果考完再找个工作的话,中间也出现了8个月的GAP。
另:本来打算自己出去,后来BF怕我出去后两个人会分开,毅然决定和我一起出国,要知道,他中科院工科硕士马上毕业,但是美国不承认中国的硕士,他出去意味着还要读5年的书,他家里穷,本想国内硕士毕业后工作挣钱的---总之,他为了我牺牲了很多。这时候问题又来了,他读5年,我2年,如果我申不到好的学校,估计很难毕业后在那边找到工作,那样的话我们就又要分开了,而且这次分开是三年!
至此,坛子里面问的最多的问题基本上都集中到我的身上了。
哈哈,人生啊~~
发此贴的目的一是鼓励那些因为各种问题而郁闷的同志,小妹我这样还继续在这条路上坚定地走着,因为相信自己的能力,因为心里,还有希望;二是求高人指点迷津,现在除了复习GT,我还应该做点,申请什么RANK的学校比较靠谱,什么以后的路,怎样才能走得更顺利。
真诚地谢谢大家~

A:
why mba?
you won't get another promotion due to any degree
the only way is to find your passion and stick to it
job also depends on characteristics
if you feel boring about the routine task
you should find some way out
but mba alone won't help you on that
since you'll still don't know where to go
find out your underlying drivers for management and market or PR
define specifically
make it realistic
and then improve yourself
it doesn't necessarily be mba
find out your real reasons
it's not sustainable so far

btw, the work experience is way too short
if you don't know much about business and management yet
then you won't learn much

[Program Fitting]可以給我學校一些意見嗎?(我想审请耶鲁)

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=313115&star=1#2838619
Q:
大家好, 我明年想审请MBA, 可以給我學校一些意見嗎?
因为我对MBA的审请不了解,请大家给我点议见。
我的背景:
Birth:1981
education:
1)BSc in Computing Science from UK (pass with 1st class)
2)Msc in Telecommunication from UK
Working Experience(3.5 years):
1) Engineer, A Telecomm Company (one of a telecom product Global Maket Leader) in UK, - 2 years
2) System Designer, Ericsson in Ireland -1years
3) Senior Designer, Ericssom in Swedeen (总部), 0.5 years- now
GMAT:
考了一次:710
我想审请耶鲁 或 与之相近的学校, 不知到有没有机会?
我还要加强哪些方面,才能审请到?
因为我对大学审请不了解,也不知到还有什么学校我能审请。
谢谢大家!

A:
pretty consistent career
just find out where are you heading for
and what part of mba do you need
then why yale

[Personal Branding]最后的UNC也被拒了,全军覆没。希望DX指点

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Q:

我今年也是申请了5所学校, 最后一所UNC。全被据了。我的G-680, T-101,9年工作经验,还有6年Intel的工作经验。本以为能申请到一所学校。但是我想明年再试一次。希望DX们给些好的建议,以便提高明年申请的成功率。

A:
you need to explain "why you"
why this logic is particular for you
what's your personal characteristics, passion, skill sets, experience...etc.
everything
what part of business knowledge?
be very specific
why the industrialization of chip needs you here?
why not others?
and why you need this mba?

[Career Explorer]今年去念MBA的风险

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=313073&star=1#2838472
Q:
已经拿了Offer,但是学费加两年的机会成本还是好大一笔投资啊!(当然好在美元现在贬的厉害 )
现在美国经济又不好,也不知道会衰退多久,等毕业了会不会很难找工作呢?

A:
[quote]以下是引用lshlcc在2008-3-23 22:04:00的发言:
取决于学校拉,经济再差,HBS,wharton等学校的学生还是找得到工作
如果学校不是那么好,就要考虑下了。不过前几年经济好的时候,排名不是那么靠前的MBA毕业生还是要回国工作。[/quote]

on the other hand, no matter how hot the economy is
graduates from these top of the tops can still get no jobs
and don't overreact to only one merger
of course it's a major one and has some chain reaction
but it won't crash the world
it's only one gazilla

the main issue is not about risk and economy
it's about why do you need this degree and what capabilities can you obtain "by yourself"
the economy won't exploit your job, but yourself will

[Program Fitting]谁知道美国比较好学校的MBA在美国就业的实际情况?

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=313673&star=1#2838447
Q:
谁知道美国比较好学校的MBA在美国就业的实际情况?
各位,我正在准备申请MBA,有几个问题希望从大家那里得到更多的信息:

1.目前mba在美国毕业之后实际就业情况如何?
我听说,由于次债问题,美国经济形式不好。今年一些比较好的学校,例如michigan的MBA毕业之后,就业竞争都很激烈。虽然有面试,但是最终工作offer拿的不好,总体似乎很不乐观。
我希望能从大家那里得到更多一些的信息。

不知道有没有人目前正在美国准备毕业,或是手里掌握相关的一手资料,可以大家共享一下:
l 我关心的主要是关于一些比较好的学校,比如前10名左右的学校的MBA毕业后找工作的情况。
l 在毕业时大致就业比例,尤其是中国人的就业情况。
l 他们一般都就业在什么层次的公司。
l 中国MBA毕业生在找工作时,实际竞争力如何?
l 最好是自己的实际经历,或是认识的人的实际经历。
l 另外,不知道那些回国的师兄、师姐们,就业如何?或是去香港的就业情况如何?

主要问题是,MBA就业竞争力如何,中国的MBA就业竞争力如何?

2.工资待遇的问题
不知道目前如果留在美国,起薪情况,05年USNEWS的统计是8万左右,不知道今年的情况如何?
目前USNEWS的统计还没出来,另外,我比较关心的是来自中国的MBA,他们的就业待遇问题。

非常感谢


A:
job is a very individualized issue
classmates next to you get jobs doesn't mean you'll get one
the salary varies from cities and positions
and the most critical criteria is your own competitiveness
you only get what you negotiate, not what you deserve
so don't worry too much about those info
whether you'll get a job with what level of salary won't base on those

[Personal Branding]找NN看Profile

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=313685&star=1#2838429
Q:
麻烦各位NN帮我把脉,并推荐合适的学校。先谢谢各位了!
GMAT 720 AWA 6.0 V36 (80%) M50 (95%) (De fracto 鸡肋, I wonder whether 720/6.0 is enough for TOP 10 MBA?)
TOEFL iBT 111
Bachelor (2002) of EE, Shanghai Jiaotong Univ, GPA 3.7
Master (2005) of EE, Shanghai Jiaotong Univ, GPA 4.0
3.5 year Application Engineer W/E in semiconductor industry, Fortune 500 American firm. Have published articles in trade journals and led customer projects to successful production
Extracurriculum: lead team to win electronic design contest, photograph (how would photograph serve a strength in my application?), also consider social volunteer work this year
The reason for MBA education is a switch of career -- by working as an application engineer, I've gained much experience in world wide collaboration and leading customer's project to mass production. At the same time, a great interest and enthusiam for business development and general management deeply root and burgeon. Without a well-rounded knowledge base and management experience, I find myself somewhat reaching a bottleneck for my career advancement.
As my interest in MBA education is general management, international business, and consulting, I'd sincerely appreciate anyone evaluate my profile and suggest b-schools. I am currently considering TOP 20, preferably TOP 10 if my profile looks competitive enough.
Thanks a million!

A:
quite conservitive about top 10
it's absolutely great to show your enthusiasm
but business development is too broad
you need to go at least 2 to 3 levels down to explain the details
general management is good but the same situation
and general management comflicts somewhat with consulting
also what exactly "a well-rounded knowledge base and management experience" is?
and what specific courses you need to take and why
you'll have to explain these details to get into those tops.

[Personal Branding]全军覆没

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&replyid=2838161&id=313750&page=1&skin=0&Star=1
Q: 今天收到chicago的据信,心情即复杂又平淡。后面还有两所学校,不过到现在还没面试,应该是没希望的。回想自己申请的过程,的确也不能算非常投入。8月份决定申请,10月份考G,11月考T,1月份申请了4所M7的学校。自信心过于膨胀。。。呵呵到现在,chicago面试了却被ding了,wharton早就ding了,其他两个也是早晚的事情。看来还是技不如人呀。本来在申请的时候对自己还是很有信心的,时间的确紧了点,但是从各方面收集到的信息,加上自己的努力,感觉还是不错。直到申请完,看到CD上那么多牛人,才感叹自己投入实在太少。祝福这里所有追梦的人能梦想成真!

A:
why don't you share more details
and we can try to help you fix it
we can do more than just crying
you have total control of your lifes
failure is just a process, not only a consequence
but it'll become one if you let it

[Career Explorer]33岁出国读年龄是不是太大了啊

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Q:

31岁了 ,年内才考完G,T,只能明年申请后年的MBA了,出去的时候已经33了,还值得读么,申请的时候是不是很不利啊,有经验的XDJM们说说啊

A:
you don't waste any second of your life
since you're experiencing every second of it
you breath, you eat, you sleep, and you work and study
it's fair since everyone has the same 24 hrs a day
33 is still a decent age for mba
emba is for senior executive, normally at their 50's
find out why you need mba
and find out what you can leverage from all the roads you walked through

[Personal Branding]A desperate student (v)


Q:
我是欲申請MBA的學生,目前仍就業,請有經驗 & 好心的前輩們幫我診斷一下我為什麼一直失敗? Would appreciate your kind advice. 
GMAT: 720 IBT: 103 GPA: 3.24 
Work Exp: 56 months (19military, 18 family business, 19 Logistics)
Short-term goal: Marketing, Long-term: Work for the family business(Eletronic manufacturing) 
目前申請 R1: Columbia/ interviewed / rejected Boston U/ interviewed / rejected
R2: USC/ rejected directly U of Rochester/ interviewed / wait list Katz/ interviewed / rejected UCI/ interviewed / wait list UNC/ interviewed / rejected
R3: Smith MBA/ rejected directly

Q1. 今年我自己覺得可能面試表現不夠好,看了板主的面試文章,我覺得我準備不夠周全,但其實我自己面試了幾間,有一點經驗,後段的面試其實已作得不錯了,跟面試者還算相談甚歡。 
Q2.如果今年皆刹羽而歸,針對我欲準備明年的春季班,我該加強?? 
1. Working experience (keep working) 
or 2. English speaking ability (re-take toefl and GMAT) 連續的reject浪潮中,我覺得信心難免動搖,希望能有前輩指點迷津!!

A:
大約八到九成的申請人被拒都是前半學校被拒
後半學校錄取兩三間
會出現這樣骨牌連拒的不多
但可以看到在BW forum及CD上的連拒壯士幾乎都有共同特性
就是essay粗操浮面或是亂槍打鳥
問題出在essay是多講的
但essay問題主要不是出在essay本身
而是出在生涯管理失能
生涯方向模糊或明顯不合邏輯
過去經歷與未來方向沒有具體邏輯銜接或交代不清
甚至要回朔至大學主修
無法解釋轉折點及其對生涯與生命的意義
以及對MBA細部認知不足
導致essay中無法解釋細部MBA結合點與實際生涯應用
簡單說就是申請人讓招生委員感受到無頭蒼蠅或瞎子摸象
才會出現這樣的連拒骨牌現象

但經過仔細討論其實受拒者都有MBA動機及原因
只是或許還停留在潛意識裡 沒有進行深度挖掘
或是對MBA細部了解有限
即使有動機原因 在表達時也綁手綁腳

原則上學校都是愛高分的
這裡也沒有出現特別over-qualified的現象
七百多分四年半經驗頂多算前20%
會出現BU, Katz, UCI, UM都連續拒絕或WL的現象
原因已經跟文法或潤不潤稿沒有太大關連
口語程度也已經不是重點
托福能考到一百出頭 口語已經有一定水準
問題還是出在無法解釋動機與關連
才會直接被拒

雖沒有整體狀況很難判定
但可以初步看出樓主連續被拒的主要原因
生涯方向跳躍
選校邏輯也相當模糊
對於不易想像當兵的老美而言
仍至少能了解這是個義務
主要關鍵出在為何會從家族電子業轉去做物流
又為何突然出現這個時間點要念MBA而後要轉行銷的現象
而最終回到家族事業又是為了如何

這些跟樓主申請的學校相關性都有限
首先跟哥大幾乎無關
即便哥大創業資源強大
但並沒有看出樓主的強烈創業慾望
又自我認知,投入度,與精緻度等綜合競爭力還有一段差距
受拒很正常

Smith的數位產業定位鮮明
會需要樓主清晰表達出上述的生涯轉折邏輯
以及解釋細部課程結合才行
原則上只要能解釋出實際驅力與完整結合
高分會對學校是一大誘因

但若出現BU, Katz, UCI等綜合性學校的連拒
原則上就是基本動機有問題
以及對MBA的了解只停留在入門程度
原則上就是以長程目標的回歸家族而言
這個家族事業有哪些現程與未來問題需要解決
而樓主的經驗與能力有哪些需要提升以處理家族事業
又為何會中途出家進入物流
又為何MBA出來後短程要走行銷
而MBA之中要研讀哪些重點科目
這些科目跟長短程目標又有何相關

其他校風文化都只是副菜
可以接觸在校生或校友詢問
但主菜還是在教務長的執行方針與課程編排
沒有主菜 副菜吃再多也沒用

面試頂多占三成
只是透過互動方式了解申請人是否牛肉已準備好
重點是申請人本身動機與生涯歷程是否完整與邏輯清晰
學校只是學術訓練機構
核心價值還是在申請人本身的生涯發展