http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&replyid=2516504&id=90822&page=1&skin=0&Star=1
Q:
选出你心目中最喜欢的学校：
看看大家心中最梦想去的学校是哪些。请注意，是选择你最偏好的三所学校，不一定是你所认为的实力最强的学校。
没想到这个帖子这么久了还有人回应。多谢大家了。希望这个结果能给大家选校一点点参考。
A:
In the U.S.
it's all about fit for your career
not about which one is the most popular
Every school here has its own strengths and specific differentiation
You can see in their mission statements from Deans
and take a deep look into their program designs
If you summarize the curriculum each school into one sentence
my personal interpretation is probably like this:
HBS is corporate restructuring and entrepreneurship
is well-balanced general management
Stanford is entrepreneurial general management
Kellogg is stratigic marketing management
Chicago is economic management
MIT is executional management science
Columbia is entrepreneurship and finance management
Ross is strategic management practices
Duke is fundamental general management with medical strength
Berkeley is environmental general management with tech
VirginiaDarden is quantitative general management
Dartmouth Tuck is strategic management with finance strength
NYU Stern is practical finance management
UCLA is entrepreneurial general management with tech and entertainment strengths
Cornell Johnson is analytical social management
Yale SOM is organizational management for managers
Austin McCombs is general management with accounting strength
USC Marshall is general management
LBS is strategic management
Insead is economic strategy management
IMD is leadership menegement
Queens is analytical strategic management
It's hard to vote the favorate 3
while finding the fit is the ultimate goal
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2008年2月27日 星期三
[Career Explorer][讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的MBA项目(2)
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=307878&star=1#307878
Q:
[讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的项目
采购历来不是一个热门的职业
在很多公司里地位也不重要
但是我有心在这个行业里发展
不知道有没有采购背景申请成功的范例呢？ 有没有哪位了解，有哪些项目可以选择～～
谢谢
A:
Also, different schools may have different catagories for procurement
some schools catogorize it in "logistics,"
some put it in "operation" if they don't have supply chain or logistics major.
some even put it in "Sales and Negotiation" and overlap with operation.
generally speaking, prioritize your searching for specialization by:
1. Logistics, (it's a more advanced classification within supply chain)
2. Supply Chain,
3. Operation Management
4. Sales & Negotiation
You can find these under "Curriculum" and then "Specialization" in every school
Q:
[讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的项目
采购历来不是一个热门的职业
在很多公司里地位也不重要
但是我有心在这个行业里发展
不知道有没有采购背景申请成功的范例呢？ 有没有哪位了解，有哪些项目可以选择～～
谢谢
A:
Also, different schools may have different catagories for procurement
some schools catogorize it in "logistics,"
some put it in "operation" if they don't have supply chain or logistics major.
some even put it in "Sales and Negotiation" and overlap with operation.
generally speaking, prioritize your searching for specialization by:
1. Logistics, (it's a more advanced classification within supply chain)
2. Supply Chain,
3. Operation Management
4. Sales & Negotiation
You can find these under "Curriculum" and then "Specialization" in every school
[Career Explorer]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的MBA项目
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=307878&star=1#2792802
Q:
[讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的项目
采购历来不是一个热门的职业
在很多公司里地位也不重要
但是我有心在这个行业里发展
不知道有没有采购背景申请成功的范例呢？ 有没有哪位了解，有哪些项目可以选择～～
谢谢
A:
Generally procurement has lots to do with supply chain, operation, channel management, logistics, and negotiation.
Also a minor accounting and finance.
you need to know the overall framework operation and supply chain,
lots power and negotiation, as well as the concepts economy scale and finance, i.e. the time value capital.
Sales and inventory management are related issues that you may need to co-manage with operation manager.
Teamwork skills and communication skills are constantly facilitated
Also the leadership to drive success in the net cost structure.
Procurement is a common background for applicants. Maybe fewer than other major backgrounds like planing and business development or consulting, but still common.
Q:
[讨论]如果是采购的话，有没有比较好的项目
采购历来不是一个热门的职业
在很多公司里地位也不重要
但是我有心在这个行业里发展
不知道有没有采购背景申请成功的范例呢？ 有没有哪位了解，有哪些项目可以选择～～
谢谢
A:
Generally procurement has lots to do with supply chain, operation, channel management, logistics, and negotiation.
Also a minor accounting and finance.
you need to know the overall framework operation and supply chain,
lots power and negotiation, as well as the concepts economy scale and finance, i.e. the time value capital.
Sales and inventory management are related issues that you may need to co-manage with operation manager.
Teamwork skills and communication skills are constantly facilitated
Also the leadership to drive success in the net cost structure.
Procurement is a common background for applicants. Maybe fewer than other major backgrounds like planing and business development or consulting, but still common.
[Career Explorer]请大家帮我分析一下我的背景
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&replyid=2791745&id=306325&page=1&skin=0&Star=1
Q:
[求助]请大家帮我分析一下我的背景
我的背景如下，请大家帮我分析一下，是否有机会进入北美TOP20且以金融为方向的项目。谢谢 （我打算申请09年开始的项目）
GMAT：720 / 4.5 (有点重考的打算，正在犹豫）
TOEFL：111
06年毕业于北京大学，主修西班牙语语言文学，第二学位经济学。前者GPA约3.7，后者3.0
工作经历：至今约两年，在一家西班牙投资咨询公司的上海代表处（小公司，和当地的地区政府有合作关系）。其间在西班牙工作3个月。我的职务是consultant，一般是做一些研究报告、市场调查，以及找寻经销商、供应商，还有参与展会。的项目对我来说能提供一个从西语商务社会局限中跳出来的机会。
自我分析：我觉得软肋在于我的工作经历，比较短且、没有做过大项目、且有文化局限性，这使我在Essay中可采用的比较strong的素材有限。今年的申请期再过几个月就开始了，有点彷徨。请大家帮我做个分析，也欢迎一切建议。
A:
no necessity to retake GMAT
your is brilliant but way too young for top 20
there're several turning points need to be clarified in your career
why you took Spanish as your major instead Economy
and what's the correlation among your major, minor, consulting , and your future career in finance?
why now? you made an assumption that other dimensions life are subject to your study.
but the truth is not. Here I assume you're talking about your balance in family life.
You can see the typical student profile any schools. A big portion them build family at the same time or even earlier. Almost a half students in Ross Business School bring their children.
You have quite unusual foreign that can make you stand out from the pack. It's not about how big your achievement is, but how deep the quality is and its meaning to your life.
The last one is the passion. Why finance? Is there anything in your personality or interests lead you to finance? Are you sensitive to money? Are you also good at numbers? Do you invest by yourself? make any profit? How do you manage your own money anyway?
There must be some triggers in your life to give you directions. Find them and leverage them well. It's not about getting into what , it's about your rest--life career.
As long as you can find out these answers, the fit schools will emerge by themselves.
then you can market yourself accordingly.
Q:
[求助]请大家帮我分析一下我的背景
我的背景如下，请大家帮我分析一下，是否有机会进入北美TOP20且以金融为方向的项目。谢谢 （我打算申请09年开始的项目）
GMAT：720 / 4.5 (有点重考的打算，正在犹豫）
TOEFL：111
06年毕业于北京大学，主修西班牙语语言文学，第二学位经济学。前者GPA约3.7，后者3.0
工作经历：至今约两年，在一家西班牙投资咨询公司的上海代表处（小公司，和当地的地区政府有合作关系）。其间在西班牙工作3个月。我的职务是consultant，一般是做一些研究报告、市场调查，以及找寻经销商、供应商，还有参与展会。的项目对我来说能提供一个从西语商务社会局限中跳出来的机会。
自我分析：我觉得软肋在于我的工作经历，比较短且、没有做过大项目、且有文化局限性，这使我在Essay中可采用的比较strong的素材有限。今年的申请期再过几个月就开始了，有点彷徨。请大家帮我做个分析，也欢迎一切建议。
A:
no necessity to retake GMAT
your is brilliant but way too young for top 20
there're several turning points need to be clarified in your career
why you took Spanish as your major instead Economy
and what's the correlation among your major, minor, consulting , and your future career in finance?
why now? you made an assumption that other dimensions life are subject to your study.
but the truth is not. Here I assume you're talking about your balance in family life.
You can see the typical student profile any schools. A big portion them build family at the same time or even earlier. Almost a half students in Ross Business School bring their children.
You have quite unusual foreign that can make you stand out from the pack. It's not about how big your achievement is, but how deep the quality is and its meaning to your life.
The last one is the passion. Why finance? Is there anything in your personality or interests lead you to finance? Are you sensitive to money? Are you also good at numbers? Do you invest by yourself? make any profit? How do you manage your own money anyway?
There must be some triggers in your life to give you directions. Find them and leverage them well. It's not about getting into what , it's about your rest--life career.
As long as you can find out these answers, the fit schools will emerge by themselves.
then you can market yourself accordingly.
[Career Explorer]问一个有做sales和marketing的管培出去MBA的么
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=308206&star=1#2792777
Q:
问一个有做sales和marketing的管培出去MBA的么
我刚做一个top的快消管培，问下。。。。师兄师姐站出来啊！！
A:
Sales and Marketing are almost the best start for real-world business
and hence are two of the most favorite fields for MBA track
since you'll have the training about the market insights
and also really immerse yourself into the customer interaction
You'll deeply understand the market reality and power negotiation
also you'll know how important CRM and brand management are
Everything in business builts on income cash flow
only when you experience the real-world sales and marketing processes
will you know the origin of the whole industrial value chain
and understand how to correlate all these elements to optimize the profit.
You can see the student body of almost every mba program
it's common to see around 20% are sales and marketing related background
Q:
问一个有做sales和marketing的管培出去MBA的么
我刚做一个top的快消管培，问下。。。。师兄师姐站出来啊！！
A:
Sales and Marketing are almost the best start for real-world business
and hence are two of the most favorite fields for MBA track
since you'll have the training about the market insights
and also really immerse yourself into the customer interaction
You'll deeply understand the market reality and power negotiation
also you'll know how important CRM and brand management are
Everything in business builts on income cash flow
only when you experience the real-world sales and marketing processes
will you know the origin of the whole industrial value chain
and understand how to correlate all these elements to optimize the profit.
You can see the student body of almost every mba program
it's common to see around 20% are sales and marketing related background
2008年2月26日 星期二
[Career Explorer]多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦？
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=163320&star=3#2791019
Q:
多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦？
虽然说一切皆有可能，环顾四周我们甚至也能看到不少岁数不小却进了投行、咨询的个案，但是亲爱的朋友，我们的抉择还是要建立在行业潜规则和统计概率的基础上的。
因为没做过投行、也没做过咨询，所以想征询一下达人，MBA毕业多大岁数时应该挥眉耐耍?0岁？32？35？
3x
A:
See what happened in consulting industry this year
only 20+ fresh MBA got in BCG in Greater China
see how many consulting firms out there
and see how many people are applying mba every year
simply see how many members on this website
devide by the years it runs
the posibility is about 10 consultants out of 10,000 applicants
it's not about the age
it's about how competitive you are
and if you want to be a consultant
first thing is to be able to analyze yourself
analyze your own career
if you cannot handle your very own career
how can you analyze anything else?
Q:
多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦？
虽然说一切皆有可能，环顾四周我们甚至也能看到不少岁数不小却进了投行、咨询的个案，但是亲爱的朋友，我们的抉择还是要建立在行业潜规则和统计概率的基础上的。
因为没做过投行、也没做过咨询，所以想征询一下达人，MBA毕业多大岁数时应该挥眉耐耍?0岁？32？35？
3x
A:
See what happened in consulting industry this year
only 20+ fresh MBA got in BCG in Greater China
see how many consulting firms out there
and see how many people are applying mba every year
simply see how many members on this website
devide by the years it runs
the posibility is about 10 consultants out of 10,000 applicants
it's not about the age
it's about how competitive you are
and if you want to be a consultant
first thing is to be able to analyze yourself
analyze your own career
if you cannot handle your very own career
how can you analyze anything else?
[Career Explorer]What did I do Wrong!?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=11&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74497
Q:
With the application increase this year, I am really losing hope on my chance to get in an MBA class of 2010. I know that my mainweakness is my GMAT i score high in quant and extremely low in verbal total to 650 and even worse I am an international student. But I thought i had good background 3.54 UG/currently 3.5yrs work exp in Brokerage firm in the US/ co manage a small manufacturer in Thailand/ and a couple volunteer experience that are actually meaningful to me as a person. Also I have a clear goal of where i want to be post MBA and my ultimate goal is to better lives of people in South East Asia thru my consulting firm and I thought they would look over my flaw for my unique background. BUT AGAIN....I got dinged from CHicago and Wharton ALREADY and now I wonder how will i make it at YALE, CORNELL, DARDEN, MIT, and DUKE???? I'm thinking of studying for gmat and get my score up to 730+ , but seriously guys, what are my chances of the rest of the schools I apply to? and Plus I cant reapply unless i know what i did wrong beside the GMAT part? This is costing me some serious money and heartache already hmmm Pls Advice!
A:
You did nothing wrong, but frankly not in the main battle field. Even you get a 730 in GMAT, you're still not in the core competition since your work experience is still too weak compare to the almost-6-yr-in-average pool. Even a 9-yr may get a ding. GMAT is essential but not critical, instead it's your career path, the overall quality of essays for fit programs, and the deep touch of your life. Those extracurriculars are not like a check list but how you interpret the love of your life.
You have several key fields regarding your overall application package need to be improved, despite your GMAT score and work experience. First is your career objectives and the "fit" of an MBA program. The schools you applied are dramatically different in either their positionings or strengths. They reflect your career objectives and goals must be quite blur that the fit schools didn't emerge by themselves. This issue alone can fail you in any application.
Second is your myth. MBA is not a goal, it's a training process. The best schools have the most resources and highest quality faculty, but it doesn't mean you know how to use it. Harvard is a great title to make you a bigger chance to have interviews, but recruiters hire people because of you, not the school name.
Third is your competitiveness. If only 2 dings from those heaven schools can frustrate you like this, you might feel very lucky to be dinged. In those schools, every second is war. If you've been to Harvard, you'll feel the extreme tension starts from the sub station. You can sense a very uncomfortable atmosphere that about 3 people out of 10 don't dare to look at you in the eyes, even you're only a tourist. It's very clear that many of them their confidences are completely crashed by other extremely competent classmates. It's pretty easy to meet someone with full score GMAT or TOEFL on campus, or both, and others have Ph.D already or Olympic titles. Just walk through the cafe shop you'll see the case page they study is all in black that hundreds lines of notes. How can they get a 650 GMAT? It has to be 800!! If you're not from another planet also, don't even try to ruin your life. There're good reasons that recruiters like big titles, but also better reasons to hate them.
The last one is your attitude. Career competence is intrinsic that lies in your personality and your capabilities, not extrinsic from a school name or from a score. You perform extracurriculars for those needed people, not for a school admission. People success by themselves, not given by others. Schools have different positionings and it depends on which one is your true fit, also how smart you leverage it. People not from top schools don't need to die, instead they have better agility and flexibility that no need to compete with imposible rivals and have more time to focus on their own paths.
Q:
With the application increase this year, I am really losing hope on my chance to get in an MBA class of 2010. I know that my mainweakness is my GMAT i score high in quant and extremely low in verbal total to 650 and even worse I am an international student. But I thought i had good background 3.54 UG/currently 3.5yrs work exp in Brokerage firm in the US/ co manage a small manufacturer in Thailand/ and a couple volunteer experience that are actually meaningful to me as a person. Also I have a clear goal of where i want to be post MBA and my ultimate goal is to better lives of people in South East Asia thru my consulting firm and I thought they would look over my flaw for my unique background. BUT AGAIN....I got dinged from CHicago and Wharton ALREADY and now I wonder how will i make it at YALE, CORNELL, DARDEN, MIT, and DUKE???? I'm thinking of studying for gmat and get my score up to 730+ , but seriously guys, what are my chances of the rest of the schools I apply to? and Plus I cant reapply unless i know what i did wrong beside the GMAT part? This is costing me some serious money and heartache already hmmm Pls Advice!
A:
You did nothing wrong, but frankly not in the main battle field. Even you get a 730 in GMAT, you're still not in the core competition since your work experience is still too weak compare to the almost-6-yr-in-average pool. Even a 9-yr may get a ding. GMAT is essential but not critical, instead it's your career path, the overall quality of essays for fit programs, and the deep touch of your life. Those extracurriculars are not like a check list but how you interpret the love of your life.
You have several key fields regarding your overall application package need to be improved, despite your GMAT score and work experience. First is your career objectives and the "fit" of an MBA program. The schools you applied are dramatically different in either their positionings or strengths. They reflect your career objectives and goals must be quite blur that the fit schools didn't emerge by themselves. This issue alone can fail you in any application.
Second is your myth. MBA is not a goal, it's a training process. The best schools have the most resources and highest quality faculty, but it doesn't mean you know how to use it. Harvard is a great title to make you a bigger chance to have interviews, but recruiters hire people because of you, not the school name.
Third is your competitiveness. If only 2 dings from those heaven schools can frustrate you like this, you might feel very lucky to be dinged. In those schools, every second is war. If you've been to Harvard, you'll feel the extreme tension starts from the sub station. You can sense a very uncomfortable atmosphere that about 3 people out of 10 don't dare to look at you in the eyes, even you're only a tourist. It's very clear that many of them their confidences are completely crashed by other extremely competent classmates. It's pretty easy to meet someone with full score GMAT or TOEFL on campus, or both, and others have Ph.D already or Olympic titles. Just walk through the cafe shop you'll see the case page they study is all in black that hundreds lines of notes. How can they get a 650 GMAT? It has to be 800!! If you're not from another planet also, don't even try to ruin your life. There're good reasons that recruiters like big titles, but also better reasons to hate them.
The last one is your attitude. Career competence is intrinsic that lies in your personality and your capabilities, not extrinsic from a school name or from a score. You perform extracurriculars for those needed people, not for a school admission. People success by themselves, not given by others. Schools have different positionings and it depends on which one is your true fit, also how smart you leverage it. People not from top schools don't need to die, instead they have better agility and flexibility that no need to compete with imposible rivals and have more time to focus on their own paths.
2008年2月25日 星期一
[Testimonial]感謝David Lee 李大衛 生涯諮商有機會interview with Google
這時候是MBA一年級尋找Intern的季節，雖然每個學校都有career center，不過跟david Lee談過之後，再修改履歷或許會有比較清楚的方向。David會從交談中幫你分析人格特質，並從你工作經驗或者社團經驗去挖掘自己以往沒發覺有興趣但符合市場需求的職位當作未來生涯努力方向。例如原本我的履歷上是尋找Market Analyst Intern但是與David談過之後，依據個人經驗與興趣以先切入Product Management為比較可行方向。而有了這個方向之後，再修改履歷才有辦法將尋找Product Management與相關工作經驗呈現在履歷上面。或許也是這樣才有機會與Google interview，雖然結論未知。目前在尋找Intern的各位，若在履歷上有困擾，不妨可以與David Lee聯絡！
Hello Ming , Thank you for taking the time to talk with one of our Google engineers! I have your phone interview scheduled based on the availability you gave to Marisa . Please plan for Bala to phone you at 602-516-XXXX. Your interview will last up to 45 minutes. Feel free to contact me via phone or email if you have questions, concerns or need this to be rescheduled! Please confirm receipt of this e-mail at your soonest convenience! -- Kirsty Henry Recruiting Coordinator Engineering Operations (Platforms) kirXXXX@google.com p: 650.214.XXXX f. 602-532-XXXX For more information on the Google recruiting and hiring process, take a look at www.youtube.com/google
Hello Ming , Thank you for taking the time to talk with one of our Google engineers! I have your phone interview scheduled based on the availability you gave to Marisa . Please plan for Bala to phone you at 602-516-XXXX. Your interview will last up to 45 minutes. Feel free to contact me via phone or email if you have questions, concerns or need this to be rescheduled! Please confirm receipt of this e-mail at your soonest convenience! -- Kirsty Henry Recruiting Coordinator Engineering Operations (Platforms) kirXXXX@google.com p: 650.214.XXXX f. 602-532-XXXX For more information on the Google recruiting and hiring process, take a look at www.youtube.com/google
[Program Fitting]MBA到底怎麼選校?(地區/學費/課程導向)..有介紹Top50商學院的書籍或網站嗎?
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=197355#197355
Q:
最近實在是有點confused 美國這麼多商學院.到底各位是怎麼選校的~ 即使我把目標鎖定在Top 50 還是不知道該從何了解他們各自的 校風/強項領域/教學特色/招生習性/提供給國際學生宿舍的比例等細項 我看網路上大多推薦US NEWS 出版的頂尖研究所書籍.. 但是想請問有看過的人分享.裡面大概是介紹些什麼ㄋ?會有我想知道的那些資訊嗎? (因為他是各科系都有..不知道對欲申請MBA的人受用程度如何) 拜託各位好心前輩順便分享一下你們選校重點/順序 的經驗好唄^^ 除了個別上學校的網站去探尋.有沒有其他書籍或是網站 會做個比較detail的介紹和比較ㄋ 小妹在此獻上無盡的感謝 x 100
A:
simply put have your GMAT and TOEFL scores ready first
then you'll have a pretty focused range for less than 20 schools by cross-comparing 3 major ranking systems
BW, FT, and US News
then assess your career passion and capabilities in detail
and compare your specific needs with different currirula
the "fit" schools will emerge by themselves
if you're really focus enough
it should be less than 6 schools for your laser-focused career options
since every school has dramatic different positioning and unique strengths
after all these career requirements then it's time to select schools by regions, tuitions, weather...etc.
and when you're choosing schools
schools are also choosing you
it all lies in the best mutual fit to maximize your career value and the equity of the school
Q:
最近實在是有點confused 美國這麼多商學院.到底各位是怎麼選校的~ 即使我把目標鎖定在Top 50 還是不知道該從何了解他們各自的 校風/強項領域/教學特色/招生習性/提供給國際學生宿舍的比例等細項 我看網路上大多推薦US NEWS 出版的頂尖研究所書籍.. 但是想請問有看過的人分享.裡面大概是介紹些什麼ㄋ?會有我想知道的那些資訊嗎? (因為他是各科系都有..不知道對欲申請MBA的人受用程度如何) 拜託各位好心前輩順便分享一下你們選校重點/順序 的經驗好唄^^ 除了個別上學校的網站去探尋.有沒有其他書籍或是網站 會做個比較detail的介紹和比較ㄋ 小妹在此獻上無盡的感謝 x 100
A:
simply put have your GMAT and TOEFL scores ready first
then you'll have a pretty focused range for less than 20 schools by cross-comparing 3 major ranking systems
BW, FT, and US News
then assess your career passion and capabilities in detail
and compare your specific needs with different currirula
the "fit" schools will emerge by themselves
if you're really focus enough
it should be less than 6 schools for your laser-focused career options
since every school has dramatic different positioning and unique strengths
after all these career requirements then it's time to select schools by regions, tuitions, weather...etc.
and when you're choosing schools
schools are also choosing you
it all lies in the best mutual fit to maximize your career value and the equity of the school
2008年2月23日 星期六
[Program Fitting]MBA 選校問題 Minnesota vs Colorado
Q:
諸位先進, 目前小弟申請的MBA結果都已經出來了,兩勝兩敗一和(WL) 這兩勝讓小弟陷入了難以抉擇的窘境 先介紹一下小弟的資歷資歷好了, 國立大學電機系畢業後因為不用當兵, 在IC設計公司累積了大約三年半當工程師(FAE)的經驗
小弟不是研發部門,工作的內容主要是幫客戶解決設計上問題, 所以也常常要跑客戶端,歸在行銷及業務部門 (PS.IC設計公司行銷及業務部門包含 1.技術支援 2.業務 3.行銷工程師)
在還沒知道第二勝之前,第一勝是一個USNEWS大約50多名的學校 那個時候覺得大概剩下的都沒希望了,所以也想好了之後的發展 1.暑假找有關半導體方面的Intern(包含台灣) 2.畢了業回台灣快樂的就業,作業務工程師或行銷工程師 我想這方向大致上沒啥問題,如果我想要轉換到其他領域的IC設計公司或許有點小難度(ex.手機相關=>電腦相關),不過在怎麼差小弟在本來自己的領域也認識很多人,找個年薪100來萬的工作應該不成問題
想不到就在不久前另一個USNEWS上約20多名的學校也通知小弟錄取了, 先不論一般人說的USNEWS idiot ranking,確實兩間學校在curriculum及對學生未來的積極度有很大的不同,這間學校在寄來的文件中已經開始Push學生要開始對自己畢業後的出路作規劃,跟第一間學校比起來差別不小,問題出在這是一間中西部的學校,我自己看畢業生的發展大部分也是在中西部上班,(可以看的出來是一間Regional的學校),假設這兩間學校的學費差不了多少也就算了,偏偏算起來,會差將近台幣80萬以上,這間應該會破300,第一間應該250以內就解決了
小弟目前看起來,要在這間中西部的學校找到小弟喜歡的工作機會應該不大(IC設計相關行業),假設回台灣的話,這兩間在小弟的產業大概也差別不大(聽說金融業有50門檻,但是就我的觀察,IC設計感覺不出來,除非是Harvard之類的..),所以真的頭很大不曉得自己的未來該往哪邊走,我相信這是一個很關鍵的選擇,有沒有前輩能給小弟指點迷津的,或是點破小弟看哪邊有想法的錯誤. 先謝!
回應板主: Minnesota vs Colorado 再補充一點,或許有人或覺得很奇怪,如果要走IC為什麼不去加州,當初Minnesota很吸引我的一點就是,它的exchange program有到慶應大學三個月(One semester),小弟的日文大概有二級的水準,希望藉這個機會更加磨練自己的日文.
A:
absolutely Carlson
there're something $ can't buy
and something you can never earn it back
In the States, IT is one of common industries that doesn't require spcific core school list like IB or MC
but it does select dedicated and well-trained graduates from higher tier schools like Carlson
IT career is about marketing and general management
both fields Carlson's curriculum is more than twice completed and dedicated than Colorado Colorado's marketing is frankly quite weak that only have 5 courses to choose
most of the critical parts like Consumer Behavior, Market Research, CRM, Pricing, Channel Management, Brand Management are missing.
Instead, Carlson offers all these and really completed and sophisticated
In terms of management, Carlson is very strong in general management that the curriculum is well-balanced like a small Wharton
but you can see Colorado only has entry-level fundamentals, not much committed.
You learn what you pay for.
US$90k is a pretty average spending for a competitive MBA program in the U.S.
the US$20k difference is a very small amount that you can probably earn it back in half year after graduation
and you have much better chance to earn it back after a top 20 school
it'll be much harder if you're from a #50 school
the ranking is from 3 major criteria student satisfaction, academic excellence, and post MBA outcomes
there are good reasons for the ranks they deserved
the average salary in Carlson is US$10k higher than Colorado in almost every function
while Colorado is a pretty local school that 90% work in the same region
Carlson is gerenally nationally competitive with a very decent reputation and solid training
it's not about exchange program in anywhere else
you can't learn any language in 3 months
since most of us cannot master English after decedes of study
it's about the intensity and excellency of the program
and that's the bargaining power to gain an alignment with top school like Keio University
2008年2月21日 星期四
[Personal Branding]Stanford Application
範例請見此連結
http://www.mbacareerfitter.com/pdf/PhaseIII_sample_MrV.pdf
以下為來信往返內容
Q:
Hi,
I got your mail id from a chat forum on businessweek.......you offered to help a prospect there, and I too am one.....would you be willing to assess my chances of application to Stanford R2....have applied already, was just a little keen to show it to someone who'd give me an informed advice.....
A:
Hi V,
Sorry I was quite busy yesterday. I read your package and would like to comment that you may have a 70~80% chance to get into Stanford GSB. As I interacted with Stanford's adcom last year in national MBA career fair, they positioned GSB as a general management school like a compact Harvard, not particularly entrepreneurial or high-tech. Of course they have major presense of super successful entrepreneurs and high-tech professionals, but it's because of the location and the regional environment, not by intention, according to the adcom.
You have some extraordinary achievements in several giant companies, lots of impressive extracurricular activities, especially flying, and you leveraged it as your major value in terms of "freedom." You also positioned yourself as an entrepreneur to match the aspirational entrepreneurship spirit in Stanford GSB. And obviously you'd read lots of novels that your essays were really splendid and attractive for adcoms to keep reading your stories. All of these were great advantages to your essay package.
However, your essays and stories were, not critically, but somewhat incomplete. While not only your stories, but also your career logic was a little bit vague. Your GPA, even not in the U.S. 4.0 system, could make adcom frown, either. Your 700+ GMAT can make up a bit for your academic capacity, but the break down matters that your V was only 35.
The essay materials you picked was majorly "freedom" and "entrepreneurship," also altruism to poverty. All of them were great, but the freedom part was not assertive enough. It worked well with your flying hobby but it was quite empty beyond this freedom value. You may need 1 to 2 steps deeper to fulfill this value with more progressive extension like "innovation" or "exploration" to achieve some goals ahead. You also need to correlate all these values with your career goals, and these goals should be lined up with a core theme that inevitably need the Stanford GSB. So far these values are saperated from each other.
The 3rd and 4th essays could go 1 step further, too. And the financial plan for poverty and be connected with the entrepreneurship one, while you need a clear and specific business plan for your entrepreneurial dream, or at least have a clear direction that you're already on your way. The 4th one was a bit pity that you could leverage the constraint to explain what and how will you leverage GSB.
But don't get discourged by any of these, you still have big chance. Overall, since you have pretty decent and solid experience, also quite well-rounded personality and interesting life, you should be able to get the interview, and may be blessed to have an admission if you correlate all the dots and ace in the interview.
Sincerely,
David
http://www.mbacareerfitter.com/pdf/PhaseIII_sample_MrV.pdf
以下為來信往返內容
Q:
Hi,
I got your mail id from a chat forum on businessweek.......you offered to help a prospect there, and I too am one.....would you be willing to assess my chances of application to Stanford R2....have applied already, was just a little keen to show it to someone who'd give me an informed advice.....
A:
Hi V,
Sorry I was quite busy yesterday. I read your package and would like to comment that you may have a 70~80% chance to get into Stanford GSB. As I interacted with Stanford's adcom last year in national MBA career fair, they positioned GSB as a general management school like a compact Harvard, not particularly entrepreneurial or high-tech. Of course they have major presense of super successful entrepreneurs and high-tech professionals, but it's because of the location and the regional environment, not by intention, according to the adcom.
You have some extraordinary achievements in several giant companies, lots of impressive extracurricular activities, especially flying, and you leveraged it as your major value in terms of "freedom." You also positioned yourself as an entrepreneur to match the aspirational entrepreneurship spirit in Stanford GSB. And obviously you'd read lots of novels that your essays were really splendid and attractive for adcoms to keep reading your stories. All of these were great advantages to your essay package.
However, your essays and stories were, not critically, but somewhat incomplete. While not only your stories, but also your career logic was a little bit vague. Your GPA, even not in the U.S. 4.0 system, could make adcom frown, either. Your 700+ GMAT can make up a bit for your academic capacity, but the break down matters that your V was only 35.
The essay materials you picked was majorly "freedom" and "entrepreneurship," also altruism to poverty. All of them were great, but the freedom part was not assertive enough. It worked well with your flying hobby but it was quite empty beyond this freedom value. You may need 1 to 2 steps deeper to fulfill this value with more progressive extension like "innovation" or "exploration" to achieve some goals ahead. You also need to correlate all these values with your career goals, and these goals should be lined up with a core theme that inevitably need the Stanford GSB. So far these values are saperated from each other.
The 3rd and 4th essays could go 1 step further, too. And the financial plan for poverty and be connected with the entrepreneurship one, while you need a clear and specific business plan for your entrepreneurial dream, or at least have a clear direction that you're already on your way. The 4th one was a bit pity that you could leverage the constraint to explain what and how will you leverage GSB.
But don't get discourged by any of these, you still have big chance. Overall, since you have pretty decent and solid experience, also quite well-rounded personality and interesting life, you should be able to get the interview, and may be blessed to have an admission if you correlate all the dots and ace in the interview.
Sincerely,
David
[Program Fitting]Darden Vs. Duke - Which is better?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=31&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74404
Q:
Hello....I've been having some serious insomnia at night trying to decide between Fuqua (with scholarship) and Darden. I wake up one day sure that I'm going to Duke and the next day that I'll be going to Darden.
Any thoughts on which school has a better finance program?
A:
You can see the comparison of both finance courses. Darden is simply one-level more sophisticated and detailed.
Fuqua:
Corporate Finance
Investment
Entrepreneurial Finance
Advance Corporate Finance
International Corporate Finance
Corporate Restructuring
Emerging Markets
Venture Capital & Private Equity
Raising Capital: Financial Instruments, Institutions & Strategy
Darden:
Corporate Financing
Investment Strategy and Arbitrage
Entrepreneurial Finance & Private Equity
Fixed Income Instruments
Derivative Securities: Options & Futures
Managing Turnarounds and Workouts
Capital Market Flows & Institutions
Small-Enterprise Finance
Strategic Mgt of Financial Srv Org
Corporate Financial Policies
Mergers and Acquisitions
Q:
Hello....I've been having some serious insomnia at night trying to decide between Fuqua (with scholarship) and Darden. I wake up one day sure that I'm going to Duke and the next day that I'll be going to Darden.
Any thoughts on which school has a better finance program?
A:
You can see the comparison of both finance courses. Darden is simply one-level more sophisticated and detailed.
Fuqua:
Corporate Finance
Investment
Entrepreneurial Finance
Advance Corporate Finance
International Corporate Finance
Corporate Restructuring
Emerging Markets
Venture Capital & Private Equity
Raising Capital: Financial Instruments, Institutions & Strategy
Darden:
Corporate Financing
Investment Strategy and Arbitrage
Entrepreneurial Finance & Private Equity
Fixed Income Instruments
Derivative Securities: Options & Futures
Managing Turnarounds and Workouts
Capital Market Flows & Institutions
Small-Enterprise Finance
Strategic Mgt of Financial Srv Org
Corporate Financial Policies
Mergers and Acquisitions
2008年2月20日 星期三
[Program Fitting]谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306890&star=1#306890
Q:
谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia
拿到这两个学校的offer,
除了告诉我要看自己适合以外，
谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia? 谢谢。
A:
Dardan is top 10 B-school in the U.S. and is one of the most important core schools in management consulting and investment banking industries.
it's highly regarded in top consulting firms like McKinsey and investment banking like Goldman Sach, Morgan Stanley and others in Wall Street.
Darden's curriculum is also more committed in MBA program design, more sophisticated and well-rounded in general management, leadership, marketing communication, and finance management.
Entrepreneurship is a solid new highlight with deep commitment.
Strongly well-connected across multidisplinary management strategy and tactics.
Emphasize on quantitative analysis and consulting tools.
Case study is one particular highlight, but it depends on personal taste.
http://www.darden.edu/uploadedFiles/Programs/MBA/curriculumGuide.pdf
http://www.darden.edu/html/standard.aspx?menu_id=22&styleid=4&id=540
you can see the commitment when faculty explain the details of program design in 2nd-yr.
Duke is strong national school, generally ranked around 20. Emphasize on teamwork.
Good general management but a bit less sophisticated than Darden.
Particularly strong in bio-tech and medical industry.
Some people believe Fuqua is a great marketing school since lots of health sector giants have strong preference for Fuqua graduates.
http://ee.fuqua.duke.edu/courses/
Q:
谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia
拿到这两个学校的offer,
除了告诉我要看自己适合以外，
谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia? 谢谢。
A:
Dardan is top 10 B-school in the U.S. and is one of the most important core schools in management consulting and investment banking industries.
it's highly regarded in top consulting firms like McKinsey and investment banking like Goldman Sach, Morgan Stanley and others in Wall Street.
Darden's curriculum is also more committed in MBA program design, more sophisticated and well-rounded in general management, leadership, marketing communication, and finance management.
Entrepreneurship is a solid new highlight with deep commitment.
Strongly well-connected across multidisplinary management strategy and tactics.
Emphasize on quantitative analysis and consulting tools.
Case study is one particular highlight, but it depends on personal taste.
http://www.darden.edu/uploadedFiles/Programs/MBA/curriculumGuide.pdf
http://www.darden.edu/html/standard.aspx?menu_id=22&styleid=4&id=540
you can see the commitment when faculty explain the details of program design in 2nd-yr.
Duke is strong national school, generally ranked around 20. Emphasize on teamwork.
Good general management but a bit less sophisticated than Darden.
Particularly strong in bio-tech and medical industry.
Some people believe Fuqua is a great marketing school since lots of health sector giants have strong preference for Fuqua graduates.
http://ee.fuqua.duke.edu/courses/
[Career Explorer]帮老公求助。37歲CFO 500強要念美國MBA還是中歐?
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306946&star=1#306946
Q:
想请教这里的NN们，
偶老公37岁，国内一所普通院校毕业的，8年管理经验，现在一家500强公司做财务总监，直接向亚洲区财务总监汇报。本来想让他去U。S或者欧洲顶级BSCHOOL深造一下的，一来圆自己的一个梦，另外也好充下电。。但现在感觉他身体没以前好了，看他在职复习GMAT那个痛苦啊，真是于心不忍；另外他老板也非常不乐意他离开，推荐信也是大问题。不知道如何是好。而且，我们是想移民的，本想读个好学校受认可，到时候工作也好找一些。
综合以上背景，大家帮忙给点意见和建议吧，像他这种情况：
1． 去美国读好的BSCHOOL的MBA意义大吗？
2． 难度大吗（如果GMAT大概就670左右）？
3． 中欧是否可以选择下？OR 欧洲？
4。之前还想过中欧的EMBA，可以在职，但貌似人家要的都是老总级的。
另外，如果以后想在香港工作，是读国外的MBA更好还是港校的？
谢谢谢谢，万分感谢大家帮忙支招！！
A:
37 is still a decent age for full-time U.S. MBA.
no particular physical struggle if you see the MBA age profile, almost 10% U.S. MBA students are in your age. The MBA studying is even tougher than GMAT preparation, and it's 2-long years.
GMAT capacity depends on personal intelligence and learning efficiency. A bunch of materials on this website for GMAT takers.
If your husband is already a CFO in a Fortune 500 company, why he still needs an MBA?
It depends on what's next for his career.
The only thing in his career should be to even broaden his global capacity, then a U.S. MBA should be more helpful, in terms of a more global economy, international language fluency, global scope of finance expertise, and a more competitive business training.
CEIBS is the best MBA program in China, so if you want to stay in the regional market, it's absolutely the choice. But it still depends on how competitive is his scores and application package.
EMBA is for senior executives with more than 10 years enterprise administration experience. So far your husband is frankly too young for that.
[Program Fitting]Choosing Between $s and Fit
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74454
Q:
I'd like to get everyone else's opinion on choosing between being accepted at one school that fits perfectly with my career goals, personality, and personal situation, and one that is a good fit in all these categories (but not nearly as perfect as the first) and that has offered me $s.
Some examples to help the discussion might be Sloan vs. Columbia w/ $, Kellogg vs. Ross w/ $, Tuck vs. Fuqua w/ $
A:
Half tuition is although a big incentive, it's almost only your half-year salary if you go to the very top school. Compare to your whole rest-of-life career, half year is nothing. It always goes to your true fit and passion if the very top school can offer. And if you can get offers from these very top schools, making $ is only a piece of cake while your career is half-guaranteed.
Kellogg is one of the absolute top schools that can make your career thrive even higher. Ross and Fuqua are of course great, but Kellogg is something $ can't buy. And that's the power that Kellogg doesn't need to offer scholarship that often to vie for brilliant talents like you guys.
Q:
I'd like to get everyone else's opinion on choosing between being accepted at one school that fits perfectly with my career goals, personality, and personal situation, and one that is a good fit in all these categories (but not nearly as perfect as the first) and that has offered me $s.
Some examples to help the discussion might be Sloan vs. Columbia w/ $, Kellogg vs. Ross w/ $, Tuck vs. Fuqua w/ $
A:
Half tuition is although a big incentive, it's almost only your half-year salary if you go to the very top school. Compare to your whole rest-of-life career, half year is nothing. It always goes to your true fit and passion if the very top school can offer. And if you can get offers from these very top schools, making $ is only a piece of cake while your career is half-guaranteed.
Kellogg is one of the absolute top schools that can make your career thrive even higher. Ross and Fuqua are of course great, but Kellogg is something $ can't buy. And that's the power that Kellogg doesn't need to offer scholarship that often to vie for brilliant talents like you guys.
[Personal Branding]面试官说2周就给我答复，是好事还是坏事？
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306968&star=1#2780977
Q:
面试官说2周就给我答复，是好事还是坏事？
到时还没到他们通知的deadline呢
这种情况一般是deny还是accept啊？
痛苦啊
No special meaning on this timing issue
adcom cannot make any decision only base on interview
all applications need to go through the whole reviewing process
The notification timeframe is only a general guideline.
[Program Fitting]KFBS v. McCombs - Which rep is better?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74457.4&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
They go head to head in rankings, but in the real world who has the better national rep and for financial services, which will get me the better job?
A:
It depends on your career path. Both schools are well-rounded in general management, while McCombs is superior in accounting and KF is particularly strong in marketing management.
McCombs is now heading toward general management field and had pretty good improvement in marketing, but it's core competence remains in accounting.
KF emphasizes on teamwork with strong team building practices and collaborative culture that invites your family and friends to join KF community.
Since these 2 schools are pretty close in rankings, what really matters is not the rankings anymore but the detail curricula. When you see the finance concentrations under both mba programs, neither of them are strong in this field. McCombs is very generic that hits on fundamental theories and overall strategy like risk, investment approaches, real estate, and portfolio management. KF also have those courses and knocks a bit more detailed like derivatives, modeling, M&A, and private equity. But compare to those core finance schools, these 2 are in minor side.
Both schools are nationally competitive but have totally different positioning and core strengths. It depends on your own career goals. And no one can guarentee you a job. Only your own passion and capabilities can.
Q:
They go head to head in rankings, but in the real world who has the better national rep and for financial services, which will get me the better job?
A:
It depends on your career path. Both schools are well-rounded in general management, while McCombs is superior in accounting and KF is particularly strong in marketing management.
McCombs is now heading toward general management field and had pretty good improvement in marketing, but it's core competence remains in accounting.
KF emphasizes on teamwork with strong team building practices and collaborative culture that invites your family and friends to join KF community.
Since these 2 schools are pretty close in rankings, what really matters is not the rankings anymore but the detail curricula. When you see the finance concentrations under both mba programs, neither of them are strong in this field. McCombs is very generic that hits on fundamental theories and overall strategy like risk, investment approaches, real estate, and portfolio management. KF also have those courses and knocks a bit more detailed like derivatives, modeling, M&A, and private equity. But compare to those core finance schools, these 2 are in minor side.
Both schools are nationally competitive but have totally different positioning and core strengths. It depends on your own career goals. And no one can guarentee you a job. Only your own passion and capabilities can.
2008年2月18日 星期一
[Program Fitting]问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=293959&star=1#2777410
Q:问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
A:
纽约众大学中有三大系统:私立,州立,与市立私立有超强牛校如哥大NYU,也有排在州立与市立后面的学校而除了私立名校外综合来说州立又较市立学校好州立名校有四大: Buffalo,Albany, Stony Brook,及Binghamton 市立大学也一堆,但就属CUNY最有名CUNY若要讲MBA 是综合性基础管理课程选择不像州立学校那么多, 课程设计的深度也主要以入门概念式教学为主适合刚工作一两年的基础商学训练就自身内部课程比较财务稍比营销来的见长财务相关校友也多主要是地利优势在纽约市因此财务人士居多学费与课程价值而言不像前面学校那般高效能一门课四学分没修几门就毕业念的快出来也快GMAT大约600~650左右就能进去就读
工作经验也不很要求
一两年就能念
Q:问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
A:
纽约众大学中有三大系统:私立,州立,与市立私立有超强牛校如哥大NYU,也有排在州立与市立后面的学校而除了私立名校外综合来说州立又较市立学校好州立名校有四大: Buffalo,Albany, Stony Brook,及Binghamton 市立大学也一堆,但就属CUNY最有名CUNY若要讲MBA 是综合性基础管理课程选择不像州立学校那么多, 课程设计的深度也主要以入门概念式教学为主适合刚工作一两年的基础商学训练就自身内部课程比较财务稍比营销来的见长财务相关校友也多主要是地利优势在纽约市因此财务人士居多学费与课程价值而言不像前面学校那般高效能一门课四学分没修几门就毕业念的快出来也快GMAT大约600~650左右就能进去就读
工作经验也不很要求
一两年就能念
[Career Explorer]有必要换工作吗？
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306578&star=1#2777270
Q:
06年毕业之后在一家不大的英国金融公司工作，工作环境轻松，薪水也不错。
最近拿到一个HSBC汇丰银行（北京）的OFFER。因为在积累工作经验，还没有申请过，不知道在HSBC工作会不会给将来申请美国的MBA增加一个砝码。
而且计划08年年底就申请，矛盾啊。。。年底就申请了，不知道现在还换工作到HSBC是不是在折腾。
真不知道有没有必要。
前辈们给我点意见吧。
A:
要小心这里出现倒果为因的现象
MBA不是一个追寻目标
而是一个训练过程
申请人要知道未来生涯目标是要去哪里
因为中间没有其他方式能比MBA更快速有效达到这项目标
因此需要MBA
并仔细解释为什么会必须经过某特定学校MBA的训练
公司名或是头衔本身并不会有什么加分或减分的效果
MBA申请也不是靠谁公司大头衔大就进的去
除了职务内容要看转职的目的为何
是因为目前工作内容只专精于某几块
有某些瓶颈无法突破
需要经过转到新的职位取得补强
而新的职务内容跟旧有的职务内容结合
可以让您往未来生涯方向更上层楼
而透过xx学校的MBA
可以将您这两项工作所累积的经验深度与广度作提炼
让您未来成为更有效的经理人
因此必须要找出工作细项的需求点与转折点
跟未来生涯方向的关系
以及与新职务的细项逻辑来做媒合
如果会产生对生涯方向有更大效益的发展
并让申请人对MBA能有更强吸收能力
这样转才有益处
Q:
06年毕业之后在一家不大的英国金融公司工作，工作环境轻松，薪水也不错。
最近拿到一个HSBC汇丰银行（北京）的OFFER。因为在积累工作经验，还没有申请过，不知道在HSBC工作会不会给将来申请美国的MBA增加一个砝码。
而且计划08年年底就申请，矛盾啊。。。年底就申请了，不知道现在还换工作到HSBC是不是在折腾。
真不知道有没有必要。
前辈们给我点意见吧。
A:
要小心这里出现倒果为因的现象
MBA不是一个追寻目标
而是一个训练过程
申请人要知道未来生涯目标是要去哪里
因为中间没有其他方式能比MBA更快速有效达到这项目标
因此需要MBA
并仔细解释为什么会必须经过某特定学校MBA的训练
公司名或是头衔本身并不会有什么加分或减分的效果
MBA申请也不是靠谁公司大头衔大就进的去
除了职务内容要看转职的目的为何
是因为目前工作内容只专精于某几块
有某些瓶颈无法突破
需要经过转到新的职位取得补强
而新的职务内容跟旧有的职务内容结合
可以让您往未来生涯方向更上层楼
而透过xx学校的MBA
可以将您这两项工作所累积的经验深度与广度作提炼
让您未来成为更有效的经理人
因此必须要找出工作细项的需求点与转折点
跟未来生涯方向的关系
以及与新职务的细项逻辑来做媒合
如果会产生对生涯方向有更大效益的发展
并让申请人对MBA能有更强吸收能力
这样转才有益处
[Program Fitting]Choices: what to do?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74410.1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
[Program Fitting]BW ranking criteria
Just found this critical article on BW B-School Forum:
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
[Program Fitting]Thunderbird
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74419
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
[Personal Branding]申請前20大MBA, GPA 2.9 問題一問!!
Q:
Dear all, 我這樣問其實不是很好 希望各位見諒!! 1.GPA 1.1 我大學是念物理系 (台南火車站旁), 就我所知物理系當得很凶 我畢業的時候班上有一半以上都不見了 而且留下的成績大概 多是60-80分(也是有很優秀的,我是比較混的那個)..基本上, GPA要上3.0以上我個人認為不容易...這樣申請B-school不是很吃虧？ GPA 2.9唉~~~ 1.2 我已經拿到理工碩士(也是台南火車站這間), 算一算GPA接近4 當然這沒什麼, 因為研究所本來分數就給的高!! 但是這會有加分效果？我查過網路, 衆說紛紜到底實際是？ 2.W/E 工作明年滿五年(R&D), 其中額外兼差sales約3年 這些都可以寫在resume裡嗎? 會不會有反效果？ 3.GMAT target 700 IBT target:100 準備時間1-2年 希望可以彌補GPA缺憾 4.沒推薦信OK嗎？ 還是要去應湊？ 謝謝各位不勝其擾的閱讀
A:
有研究所GAP遠高過大學GPA就夠了 以最後學歷為準 有研究所的大學就不會太看 反而是會因此出現大幅進步的傾向 如果被問到時倒是可以解釋一下有哪些課餘活動的價值大於大學課業
重點是美式MBA不是靠加分進去的 而是看申請人有多大潛能並有多強資歷映證
一切都要有GMAT之後再說 誰都是target 700 但target 只是target
在美國兼差是很常有的事 只要合法都行 可以寫上沒問題 只要能夠解釋為何需要兼差 又對生涯有何意義 或是有何對生命的體悟
沒推薦信直接ding 既然工作五年 一定會有推荐信 有主管或客戶都行
但要想上top 20名校 推薦信必須要相當紮實 要對申請人的生涯方向清晰構連 講出申請人有何特殊優勢或成功特質 可以進入名校就讀後成就大業
Dear all, 我這樣問其實不是很好 希望各位見諒!! 1.GPA 1.1 我大學是念物理系 (台南火車站旁), 就我所知物理系當得很凶 我畢業的時候班上有一半以上都不見了 而且留下的成績大概 多是60-80分(也是有很優秀的,我是比較混的那個)..基本上, GPA要上3.0以上我個人認為不容易...這樣申請B-school不是很吃虧？ GPA 2.9唉~~~ 1.2 我已經拿到理工碩士(也是台南火車站這間), 算一算GPA接近4 當然這沒什麼, 因為研究所本來分數就給的高!! 但是這會有加分效果？我查過網路, 衆說紛紜到底實際是？ 2.W/E 工作明年滿五年(R&D), 其中額外兼差sales約3年 這些都可以寫在resume裡嗎? 會不會有反效果？ 3.GMAT target 700 IBT target:100 準備時間1-2年 希望可以彌補GPA缺憾 4.沒推薦信OK嗎？ 還是要去應湊？ 謝謝各位不勝其擾的閱讀
A:
有研究所GAP遠高過大學GPA就夠了 以最後學歷為準 有研究所的大學就不會太看 反而是會因此出現大幅進步的傾向 如果被問到時倒是可以解釋一下有哪些課餘活動的價值大於大學課業
重點是美式MBA不是靠加分進去的 而是看申請人有多大潛能並有多強資歷映證
一切都要有GMAT之後再說 誰都是target 700 但target 只是target
在美國兼差是很常有的事 只要合法都行 可以寫上沒問題 只要能夠解釋為何需要兼差 又對生涯有何意義 或是有何對生命的體悟
沒推薦信直接ding 既然工作五年 一定會有推荐信 有主管或客戶都行
但要想上top 20名校 推薦信必須要相當紮實 要對申請人的生涯方向清晰構連 講出申請人有何特殊優勢或成功特質 可以進入名校就讀後成就大業
2008年2月15日 星期五
[Program Fitting]Some second tier schools
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74393.1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
those of you looking towards II tier schools I want some info about UIUC, Wisconsin-Madison, OSU-Fisher, BU-SOM, Babson, Rice, Iowa-Tippie. My target is general management, technology management and from that management consultancy. How good are the prospects out there? My estimation about UIUC has been very high - the teaching quality is superb with heavy research on management science and the strong engineering department would be ideal for entrepreneurs.
A:
Some schools here are 3rd-tier. But all these schools have totally different positioning and program design.
UIUC is great at accounting, improved in the well-roundedness of finance, marketing and operation. Its fundamentals in 1st-yr is really tailored to prepare a critical-thinking manager step by step. General Management is multidisciplinary while fucus on soft human skills and decision process. Have good IT focus.
Fisher is a great marketing and logistics school that plugs in the whole value chain, from market side to operation side. Finance is good.
Madison is more academic-oriented with lots and lots of research centers. The curriculum is quite similar to that of BU that focues more on fundamental disciplines, a better fit for entry-level learnings. ASAP program for stock analysis is more dynamic, Operation is pretty detailed and HR focus is a big specialty.
Babson is specifically for entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs. The program is overwhelming that so dynamic and realistic for real entrepreneurs and simply provides you everything you need for literally any field of small to medium business.
BU SOM is quite a general management program, broad and fundamental, have technology involvement but not deep. Put lots of energy on managerial communications.
Rice is more a management consulting program that particular good at strategic consulting and energy industry. Marketing is good.
IOWA is a pretty balanced general management program, a bit academical but still practical. Marketing, finance, and service operation are good.
BTW,
UMN Carlson is a great general management school in 2nd-tier.
The curriculum is very balanced just like Wharton.
Q:
those of you looking towards II tier schools I want some info about UIUC, Wisconsin-Madison, OSU-Fisher, BU-SOM, Babson, Rice, Iowa-Tippie. My target is general management, technology management and from that management consultancy. How good are the prospects out there? My estimation about UIUC has been very high - the teaching quality is superb with heavy research on management science and the strong engineering department would be ideal for entrepreneurs.
A:
Some schools here are 3rd-tier. But all these schools have totally different positioning and program design.
UIUC is great at accounting, improved in the well-roundedness of finance, marketing and operation. Its fundamentals in 1st-yr is really tailored to prepare a critical-thinking manager step by step. General Management is multidisciplinary while fucus on soft human skills and decision process. Have good IT focus.
Fisher is a great marketing and logistics school that plugs in the whole value chain, from market side to operation side. Finance is good.
Madison is more academic-oriented with lots and lots of research centers. The curriculum is quite similar to that of BU that focues more on fundamental disciplines, a better fit for entry-level learnings. ASAP program for stock analysis is more dynamic, Operation is pretty detailed and HR focus is a big specialty.
Babson is specifically for entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs. The program is overwhelming that so dynamic and realistic for real entrepreneurs and simply provides you everything you need for literally any field of small to medium business.
BU SOM is quite a general management program, broad and fundamental, have technology involvement but not deep. Put lots of energy on managerial communications.
Rice is more a management consulting program that particular good at strategic consulting and energy industry. Marketing is good.
IOWA is a pretty balanced general management program, a bit academical but still practical. Marketing, finance, and service operation are good.
BTW,
UMN Carlson is a great general management school in 2nd-tier.
The curriculum is very balanced just like Wharton.
[Personal Branding]Interview Resume: Chicago GSB
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74405
Q:
Is a one page resume better? I have had 4 jobs and an independent consulting experience, so a one page will not be possible without some compromises, but at the same time I am confused whether a 1.5 page resume will look unprofessional.
Any comments are welcome!
A:
Yes. The format matters. As a former scholarship committee for continuing students in the U.S. B-School, reading dozens of application packages was an exhausted daily job that even have no more energy to flip your resume to the 2nd page. We generally assume you have only one page, it means you can express yourself efficiently, unless you have really extensive experience that more than 15 years. Even a 16-year or a 22-year veteran can make it.
If you have a less than 8 years experience but need more than 1 pager to express your career, it may be treated as an ineffective communicator that both get deducted in your format score and quality score.
Q:
Is a one page resume better? I have had 4 jobs and an independent consulting experience, so a one page will not be possible without some compromises, but at the same time I am confused whether a 1.5 page resume will look unprofessional.
Any comments are welcome!
A:
Yes. The format matters. As a former scholarship committee for continuing students in the U.S. B-School, reading dozens of application packages was an exhausted daily job that even have no more energy to flip your resume to the 2nd page. We generally assume you have only one page, it means you can express yourself efficiently, unless you have really extensive experience that more than 15 years. Even a 16-year or a 22-year veteran can make it.
If you have a less than 8 years experience but need more than 1 pager to express your career, it may be treated as an ineffective communicator that both get deducted in your format score and quality score.
[Career Explorer]留學的時間順序排程問題?誰先誰後呢?
[quote="kksean"]
爬文許久，我很明確的知道自己未來要到美國唸研究所，拿MBA in Finance或 MS in Finance[/quote]
why?
and how?
[quote="kksean"](例如服兵役一年，例如托福成績只保留兩年，例如退伍先工作2年拿金融業的工作經驗或直接出國)，誰先誰後如果沒有排好順序，自己還真沒有本錢走錯這麼個幾步。
一、我該什麼時候準備托福以及GMAT考試呢?什麼時候報名補習班?[/quote]
很簡單 補習只是小投資習可以先補 真槍實彈考過一次以後就知道以後未來如何進步
GMAT跟語言都與年齡,歷練,與心智成熟度有關
先補過習知道方向 真實考過知道這巨獸到底有多龐大以後(遠遠超乎你任何想像)
自然會慢慢朝正確方向前進
才大三 還要當兵
托福是肯定不能用的
但是語言這種東西要有正確方向累積
要補過考過才會知道進步方向
[quote="kksean"]二、先工作或先出國？[/quote]
大概已經解釋了兩萬次還是自己爬一下文
http://mbacareerfitter.blogspot.com/2008/02/career-explorer.html
簡單說沒工作經驗怎知是唸錯還是白念
[quote="kksean"] (1.)該先工作兩年再出國拿碩士?如前所言，我自己是唸財金的，未來也不打算轉行，[/quote]
how do you know?
[quote="kksean"] 出了國還是要念MBA in Finance 或 MS in Finance。 [/quote]
again, how do you know?
[quote="kksean"]這兩種學位幾乎都要求兩年以上的工作經驗才有希望進入TOP100排名的學校， [/quote]
not necessarily
but do you know why?
[quote="kksean"]但怕自己退伍後工作了兩年，又花了一年做留學補習班的全職學生以及申請學校，到了出國時自己已年紀26左右，唸完兩年碩士又在學成後留美實習一年，全套結束都邁入29歲了，重新投入職場是否已嫌太老? [/quote]
why why why
it's impossible to plan all these in 10 yr advance
career is a trial-and-error process
the only thing you can do is test your passion again and again
then change accordingly
who told you you need an advanced degree anyway??
work first, then you'll find out if you need it or not
probably you need it, then you need an evidence
probably you don't, and you need an evidence, too
don't mass up with your career by an imaginary planit's only an imagination.
[quote="kksean"](2.)但如果退伍後，利用一年的時間只做個學生，全力拚托福和GMAT以各項學校申請行政作業，學校錢花下去一定申請的到，只是有名或沒名的學校差別而已。因自己想在畢業後能長期留於美國工作，沒工作經驗能申請並就讀的學校恐怕沒什麼沒什麼名氣，這樣留美工作機會是否就大幅降低了？又，如果必須回台工作，這樣的學位對金融從業機構還有吸引力嗎？[/quote]
again,
whywhywhy
there's no plan at all.
don't draw by any imaginationand
you need to know why through evidence.
[quote="kksean"]三、拿到學位也實習一年結束後，爭取長期留在美國工作有可能嗎?學校要排名TOP10? TOP50? TOP100?多少排名以內有機會? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]四、秋季班?春季班?該考的都考完後，什麼時候(幾月)開始進行申請步驟呢? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]五、3.0上下的GPA對申請TOP100或TOP50的學校夠用嗎? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"] 自己大一大二成績平均起來GPA只有二點多但趨勢是持續上揚，從大三以後GPA站上三點多，雖然目前只能盡力把在學成績盡力拉高，但先問問這樣還有希望進入TOP50或TOP100?[/quote]
you need to perform for yourselfnot for anyone else.
besides, no need to discuss now
Sorry to be cynical, but the world is simply not like what you imagine.
It's good to plan in advance
but not to over-plan
every single matter can change your life significantly
all you can do is to experience your life as broad as possible
and accomodate your career goals day by day.
hold your U.S. study thoughs until you can prove you need it
go to work 4 years later first
and find out the evidence what you can do and should do
test your passion if it's really finance
or else.
You never know until you do it for months and years
Some people don't even need an advanced degree
if you need it, you need to know why
only yourself can bear the responsibility for your career
for your 2-yr life
and for the investment.
爬文許久，我很明確的知道自己未來要到美國唸研究所，拿MBA in Finance或 MS in Finance[/quote]
why?
and how?
[quote="kksean"](例如服兵役一年，例如托福成績只保留兩年，例如退伍先工作2年拿金融業的工作經驗或直接出國)，誰先誰後如果沒有排好順序，自己還真沒有本錢走錯這麼個幾步。
一、我該什麼時候準備托福以及GMAT考試呢?什麼時候報名補習班?[/quote]
很簡單 補習只是小投資習可以先補 真槍實彈考過一次以後就知道以後未來如何進步
GMAT跟語言都與年齡,歷練,與心智成熟度有關
先補過習知道方向 真實考過知道這巨獸到底有多龐大以後(遠遠超乎你任何想像)
自然會慢慢朝正確方向前進
才大三 還要當兵
托福是肯定不能用的
但是語言這種東西要有正確方向累積
要補過考過才會知道進步方向
[quote="kksean"]二、先工作或先出國？[/quote]
大概已經解釋了兩萬次還是自己爬一下文
http://mbacareerfitter.blogspot.com/2008/02/career-explorer.html
簡單說沒工作經驗怎知是唸錯還是白念
[quote="kksean"] (1.)該先工作兩年再出國拿碩士?如前所言，我自己是唸財金的，未來也不打算轉行，[/quote]
how do you know?
[quote="kksean"] 出了國還是要念MBA in Finance 或 MS in Finance。 [/quote]
again, how do you know?
[quote="kksean"]這兩種學位幾乎都要求兩年以上的工作經驗才有希望進入TOP100排名的學校， [/quote]
not necessarily
but do you know why?
[quote="kksean"]但怕自己退伍後工作了兩年，又花了一年做留學補習班的全職學生以及申請學校，到了出國時自己已年紀26左右，唸完兩年碩士又在學成後留美實習一年，全套結束都邁入29歲了，重新投入職場是否已嫌太老? [/quote]
why why why
it's impossible to plan all these in 10 yr advance
career is a trial-and-error process
the only thing you can do is test your passion again and again
then change accordingly
who told you you need an advanced degree anyway??
work first, then you'll find out if you need it or not
probably you need it, then you need an evidence
probably you don't, and you need an evidence, too
don't mass up with your career by an imaginary planit's only an imagination.
[quote="kksean"](2.)但如果退伍後，利用一年的時間只做個學生，全力拚托福和GMAT以各項學校申請行政作業，學校錢花下去一定申請的到，只是有名或沒名的學校差別而已。因自己想在畢業後能長期留於美國工作，沒工作經驗能申請並就讀的學校恐怕沒什麼沒什麼名氣，這樣留美工作機會是否就大幅降低了？又，如果必須回台工作，這樣的學位對金融從業機構還有吸引力嗎？[/quote]
again,
whywhywhy
there's no plan at all.
don't draw by any imaginationand
you need to know why through evidence.
[quote="kksean"]三、拿到學位也實習一年結束後，爭取長期留在美國工作有可能嗎?學校要排名TOP10? TOP50? TOP100?多少排名以內有機會? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]四、秋季班?春季班?該考的都考完後，什麼時候(幾月)開始進行申請步驟呢? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]五、3.0上下的GPA對申請TOP100或TOP50的學校夠用嗎? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"] 自己大一大二成績平均起來GPA只有二點多但趨勢是持續上揚，從大三以後GPA站上三點多，雖然目前只能盡力把在學成績盡力拉高，但先問問這樣還有希望進入TOP50或TOP100?[/quote]
you need to perform for yourselfnot for anyone else.
besides, no need to discuss now
Sorry to be cynical, but the world is simply not like what you imagine.
It's good to plan in advance
but not to over-plan
every single matter can change your life significantly
all you can do is to experience your life as broad as possible
and accomodate your career goals day by day.
hold your U.S. study thoughs until you can prove you need it
go to work 4 years later first
and find out the evidence what you can do and should do
test your passion if it's really finance
or else.
You never know until you do it for months and years
Some people don't even need an advanced degree
if you need it, you need to know why
only yourself can bear the responsibility for your career
for your 2-yr life
and for the investment.
[Personal Branding]Chicago interview
Q:
David, Thanks a million for your help.
Saw several of your answers to others' questions, really helpful.
I will take the Chicago interview. In answering the interview quesions about Why Chicago, how do you think if I repeat some part of my written essay, such as flexible curriculum, the entrepreneurship program related to my career goals or the analytical strength?
Do you mind sharing with me your MSN? I really appreciate your reply and help!
Best wishes to your life and work in the New Year!
A:
You definitely need to correlate with your essay materials, while everything should be guided by your career objectives, which derived from your passion and personality. And you need to extend much deeper from your written materials, let the adcom knows you're well-prepared and strongly focus on where you're going.
You need to link both your short-term and long-term goals, and this path from where you are now will inevitablely need the irreplaceable Chicago GBS.
Flexible curriculum is ok, but it's only an open option for students, it doesn't necessarily help you on any specific purpose. Instead, you need to tell them which part of curriculum you need and why (for your career goals specifically,) and if your career goals need their resources like entrepreneurship program and analyticals, correlate the relationship among your objectives and tell them why.
Good luck and best wishes
David
David, Thanks a million for your help.
Saw several of your answers to others' questions, really helpful.
I will take the Chicago interview. In answering the interview quesions about Why Chicago, how do you think if I repeat some part of my written essay, such as flexible curriculum, the entrepreneurship program related to my career goals or the analytical strength?
Do you mind sharing with me your MSN? I really appreciate your reply and help!
Best wishes to your life and work in the New Year!
A:
You definitely need to correlate with your essay materials, while everything should be guided by your career objectives, which derived from your passion and personality. And you need to extend much deeper from your written materials, let the adcom knows you're well-prepared and strongly focus on where you're going.
You need to link both your short-term and long-term goals, and this path from where you are now will inevitablely need the irreplaceable Chicago GBS.
Flexible curriculum is ok, but it's only an open option for students, it doesn't necessarily help you on any specific purpose. Instead, you need to tell them which part of curriculum you need and why (for your career goals specifically,) and if your career goals need their resources like entrepreneurship program and analyticals, correlate the relationship among your objectives and tell them why.
Good luck and best wishes
David
2008年2月14日 星期四
[Personal Branding]拿到UCLA面试，求助！
Q:
拿到UCLA面试，求助！
准备在北京做alumnus interview. 有什么需要注意的地方？
A:
一些基本的学校状况要了解一下
UCLA走综合管理与策略顾问,创业, IT,财务,娱乐与体育
师资号称世界级水准
教务长治校方针是要在2010年满七十五周年前
打造世界顶及商学院
由师资多元化,研究路线国际化,与博士班精致度着手
有研究中心与创业中心
在课程走向方面多以综合概念为主
课程逻辑着重综合管理与科技策略思考分析能力
以及概念式领导团队能力培养
企业扩张与创业以及媒体娱乐等
综合管理课程相当重接近一半
跟院长治校方针吻合
财务课程也相形完整
毕业出路以综合管理,财务,顾问,及企业内创业或中小型创业为大宗
领导训练是由上而下以概念化思考
带领团队合作
国际发展也有许多区域市场研究
原则上还是以综合竞争力与领导或创业能力为面试方针
强调自己的工作年资与管理经验
以及团队合作与领导能力
数量与质量分析能力
以及cross-functional跨单位整合能力
面试过程中不要反问太激进的问题
与UCLA师生互动的经验中
学校还是很强调合作能力大过个人竞争力
拿到UCLA面试，求助！
准备在北京做alumnus interview. 有什么需要注意的地方？
A:
一些基本的学校状况要了解一下
UCLA走综合管理与策略顾问,创业, IT,财务,娱乐与体育
师资号称世界级水准
教务长治校方针是要在2010年满七十五周年前
打造世界顶及商学院
由师资多元化,研究路线国际化,与博士班精致度着手
有研究中心与创业中心
在课程走向方面多以综合概念为主
课程逻辑着重综合管理与科技策略思考分析能力
以及概念式领导团队能力培养
企业扩张与创业以及媒体娱乐等
综合管理课程相当重接近一半
跟院长治校方针吻合
财务课程也相形完整
毕业出路以综合管理,财务,顾问,及企业内创业或中小型创业为大宗
领导训练是由上而下以概念化思考
带领团队合作
国际发展也有许多区域市场研究
原则上还是以综合竞争力与领导或创业能力为面试方针
强调自己的工作年资与管理经验
以及团队合作与领导能力
数量与质量分析能力
以及cross-functional跨单位整合能力
面试过程中不要反问太激进的问题
与UCLA师生互动的经验中
学校还是很强调合作能力大过个人竞争力
[Personal Branding]两个问题 关于duke面试的作用
Q:
我的toefl也到晚了，似乎错过面试机会了。。。。。
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Dear XXX
Thank you for your interest in Duke. We received your official TOEFL report in time. If you are invited to interview with one of our alumni, I will send you an individual email bythe end of my day tomorrow, Tuesday, February 12.
If you do not receive an email invitation to interview, it means that we were not able to accommodate your request. Please know that as interviews are not required for admission, your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview. The information that we askof appli cants in your application is sufficient for the admissions committee to make a decision. At this time, no decisions have been made on any applications.
All decisions for round 2 applicants will be released on March 7, 2008,and you can expect to receive your admission decision on that date.
Best regards,
Katie Madison
想问两个问题1）有没有参加了round1面试，但被拒或waitlist 的么？2）有没有没参加过面试却被录取的人呢
ie“your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview.”就是不理解额居为何特别说明这句
A:
很清楚是决定录取与否的审核过程并不要求面试
有被安排到面试的很好
没被排到面视也不会因此不被录取
所以没有面试到也不用担心
面试有许多不同功用
资源与人力庞大的学校能够100%面试所有申请人
但有些学校由于人手不足或有其他安排
无法100%面试
而在申请文件中就已经筛选出决定录取与决定拒绝掉的申请人
但当有些具有竞争力的申请人学校担心他们会跑去念别间
因此与其面试那些一定会上或一定不会上的人
不如把时间与人力花在那些犹豫不决或有超过一个admission的申请人身上
运用面试的面对面互动
以及实际邀请准学生莅校参访感受学校气氛
可以有效提高准学生的就学欲望
我的toefl也到晚了，似乎错过面试机会了。。。。。
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Dear XXX
Thank you for your interest in Duke. We received your official TOEFL report in time. If you are invited to interview with one of our alumni, I will send you an individual email bythe end of my day tomorrow, Tuesday, February 12.
If you do not receive an email invitation to interview, it means that we were not able to accommodate your request. Please know that as interviews are not required for admission, your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview. The information that we askof appli cants in your application is sufficient for the admissions committee to make a decision. At this time, no decisions have been made on any applications.
All decisions for round 2 applicants will be released on March 7, 2008,and you can expect to receive your admission decision on that date.
Best regards,
Katie Madison
想问两个问题1）有没有参加了round1面试，但被拒或waitlist 的么？2）有没有没参加过面试却被录取的人呢
ie“your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview.”就是不理解额居为何特别说明这句
A:
很清楚是决定录取与否的审核过程并不要求面试
有被安排到面试的很好
没被排到面视也不会因此不被录取
所以没有面试到也不用担心
面试有许多不同功用
资源与人力庞大的学校能够100%面试所有申请人
但有些学校由于人手不足或有其他安排
无法100%面试
而在申请文件中就已经筛选出决定录取与决定拒绝掉的申请人
但当有些具有竞争力的申请人学校担心他们会跑去念别间
因此与其面试那些一定会上或一定不会上的人
不如把时间与人力花在那些犹豫不决或有超过一个admission的申请人身上
运用面试的面对面互动
以及实际邀请准学生莅校参访感受学校气氛
可以有效提高准学生的就学欲望
[Personal Branding]哈佛的ESSAY
Q:
哈佛的ESSAY
诸位前辈，想讨教关于申请哈佛MBA的ESSAY，特别是如何强调LEADERSHIP。 哪里可以看看过往牛人们写的ESSAY吗？
A:
哈佛的传统七题essay中都有一个字不断重复
叫做"defining"
要问申请人如何用您的经历来"重新定义"何谓领导
申请人需要有相当程度的厚实经历
才写的出这些回答
因为哈佛旨在训练能够开创新格局的未来领导人
每个学生必须要有高度开创能力与强劲领导特质
能够不断为既有的领导专业带入新定义
能够将领导力融会贯通到自身的哲学中
并开创出自成一格的新定义
是哈佛商学院所渴求的高材生
Testimonial 7
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27146&start=45
Actcard
謝謝大衛的熱情分享, 有問必答, 有忙必幫, 全力協助解決每個人的疑難雜症. 很多時候自己看不到的盲點, 在別人的眼裡卻是非常的清楚! 昨晚藉由閒聊的方式, 大衛引導大家透過一步步抽絲剝繭的問答方式, 從中發掘自己的motivation與core competence, 這樣的方式不僅是申請學校, 對於尋找工作也很有幫助.
Testimonial 6
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27146&start=45
Kikiwiwi
大衛的說明真的很精彩....很明顯感覺得出來他對這方面的passion 經過整個討論後，對我最大的收穫，主要在如何去重視與發掘自己內心的聲音，加上david的多家學校特性說明，可以讓我在apply的路上感覺更清楚、更具體了些。 畢竟MBA是個工具，但必須首先真實面對自己的性格、興趣，進而利用這個工具讓自己發光發熱，甚至樂在工作、樂在生活.. 真的是蠻棒的一次經驗啦。
Testimonial 5
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27146&start=45
wonder30
大衛講座太精采啦！ 我找到了自己最想要生涯規劃 了解到寫essay的盲點 大衛也給了我很多其他的建議和靈感 很感謝大衛無私的熱情分享^^
wonder30
大衛講座太精采啦！ 我找到了自己最想要生涯規劃 了解到寫essay的盲點 大衛也給了我很多其他的建議和靈感 很感謝大衛無私的熱情分享^^
Testimonial 4
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=21117
[分享]與大衛閒聊後有感
MIT applicant
raikennon
傷心咖啡店 首頁 -> 美洲留學相談室
raikennon
發表於: 2006-10-04 15:30 文章主題: [分享]與大衛閒聊後有感
眾所皆知,大衛在版上的熱心是有目共睹,我也在GMAT中的RC版獲益良多, 在面臨出國申請學校的繁雜手續及忙不完的ESSAY中,我厚著臉皮向大衛請益,雖然他的課業繁忙,但還是願意跟我分享他的申請經驗.
我自認我自己的學經歷不差,分數也還可以,但在寫ESSAY時總是覺得缺了什麼,在跟大衛聊過之後,我必須說他的觀察力幫助我找到自己所忽略的事項,雖然這些事項對我們來說沒什麼,可是對老外來說可是一個重點,這時才真的了解文化的差異對申請者來說有很大的影響力.
我相信有很多很優秀的申請者也面臨跟我一樣的問題,在沒有找代辦的情況下,一個人申請真的很像瞎子摸象般無助,雖然我很enjoy申請的過程,因為就像站上很多大牛說的,申請的過程是對自己人生到目前為止的檢視,但我也擔心若因此沒上該怎麼辦?因此我建議要自己辦的申請者在申請過程中,一定要找有國外mba經驗的人幫你審視文章,我相信這個過程更可以補足你所缺乏的文化劣勢.
最後趁這機會跟大衛道聲謝,希望我有機會可以請你喝個酒,還你這個人情
[Sharing]After talking to David
MIT applicant
Everybody knows, David is enthusiastic on the website and well-recognized, I also gained a lot from his reading technique for GMAT exam. Facing the miscellaneous application process and ever-lasting essay writing, I asked for David’s help as a stranger. Even though he was busying on his MBA academy, he was still willing to share his application experience.
I was confident of my experience and academy power, and my scores were pretty competitive, but I always felt something missing in my essay package. After talking to David, I have to strongly recognize him that his delicate sense about details helped me figure out the missing part, although it was not a big deal to us, those elements may mean significantly to Westerners. At the mean time, I figured out the cultural intelligence can make great difference on applications.
I believe lots of competitive applicants are facing the same obstacles as I did, without application agencies, it was really helpless in the dark. Although I enjoyed the application process, but just like lots of “celebrity applicants” on the website, the application process is an examination of your life to date. While I was also worried about what if I fail? I suggest self-applicants seeking help from experts who studied MBA themselves to revise your application package, and I believe it’ll greatly help on your cultural intelligence.
Finally, I have to thank David for your great help, and treat you a beer party, I owe you one.
[分享]與大衛閒聊後有感
MIT applicant
raikennon
傷心咖啡店 首頁 -> 美洲留學相談室
raikennon
發表於: 2006-10-04 15:30 文章主題: [分享]與大衛閒聊後有感
眾所皆知,大衛在版上的熱心是有目共睹,我也在GMAT中的RC版獲益良多, 在面臨出國申請學校的繁雜手續及忙不完的ESSAY中,我厚著臉皮向大衛請益,雖然他的課業繁忙,但還是願意跟我分享他的申請經驗.
我自認我自己的學經歷不差,分數也還可以,但在寫ESSAY時總是覺得缺了什麼,在跟大衛聊過之後,我必須說他的觀察力幫助我找到自己所忽略的事項,雖然這些事項對我們來說沒什麼,可是對老外來說可是一個重點,這時才真的了解文化的差異對申請者來說有很大的影響力.
我相信有很多很優秀的申請者也面臨跟我一樣的問題,在沒有找代辦的情況下,一個人申請真的很像瞎子摸象般無助,雖然我很enjoy申請的過程,因為就像站上很多大牛說的,申請的過程是對自己人生到目前為止的檢視,但我也擔心若因此沒上該怎麼辦?因此我建議要自己辦的申請者在申請過程中,一定要找有國外mba經驗的人幫你審視文章,我相信這個過程更可以補足你所缺乏的文化劣勢.
最後趁這機會跟大衛道聲謝,希望我有機會可以請你喝個酒,還你這個人情
[Sharing]After talking to David
MIT applicant
Everybody knows, David is enthusiastic on the website and well-recognized, I also gained a lot from his reading technique for GMAT exam. Facing the miscellaneous application process and ever-lasting essay writing, I asked for David’s help as a stranger. Even though he was busying on his MBA academy, he was still willing to share his application experience.
I was confident of my experience and academy power, and my scores were pretty competitive, but I always felt something missing in my essay package. After talking to David, I have to strongly recognize him that his delicate sense about details helped me figure out the missing part, although it was not a big deal to us, those elements may mean significantly to Westerners. At the mean time, I figured out the cultural intelligence can make great difference on applications.
I believe lots of competitive applicants are facing the same obstacles as I did, without application agencies, it was really helpless in the dark. Although I enjoyed the application process, but just like lots of “celebrity applicants” on the website, the application process is an examination of your life to date. While I was also worried about what if I fail? I suggest self-applicants seeking help from experts who studied MBA themselves to revise your application package, and I believe it’ll greatly help on your cultural intelligence.
Finally, I have to thank David for your great help, and treat you a beer party, I owe you one.
Testimonial 3
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27265
Lightsaber
申請經驗分享+對傷咖及大衛李的感謝 (06~07)
分享心得遲了點，但是還是希望能夠提供未來申請的朋友一些參考
Profile: GMAT 710 Work experience: 5 yrs (2yrs military), last was PM in a high-tech company
申請結果: 2006~2007 second round Admitted: Indiana University – Bloomington (Kelley) --- Accept offer
Ohio State University (Fisher) University of Minnesota – Twin Cities (Carlson)
Rejected: University of Michigan – Ann Arbor (Ross) Duke University (Fuqua) University of Texas – Austin (McCombs)
感覺申請上競爭比前一年(06)激烈，不過還是能申請到各方面都很均衡的Kelley 申請過程中最困難的(除了GMAT…)就是選校及Essay撰寫了，我並沒有找代辦，我認為傷咖的許多文章討論對我幫助非常大，節省很多摸索時間，但是我要特別感謝"大衛"(davidlee), 大衛在課業繁忙中仍熱心抽空幫助我! 簡單來說選校及Essay撰寫就是圍繞著”Fit”，在進入Kelley這幾週以來，我越來越能夠體會大衛當初再三提醒Fit的重要性，大衛當初對Kelley的認識，也非常的正確 大衛也幫助我釐清許多申請的迷思，幫助我了解各校的資源強弱，讓我順利錄取理想的學校 David, you are really exceptional!!! 心得: FIT真的非常重要! 建議多思考自己的興趣結合可以提供資源的Program, 並和校友請教該校的文化及學校發展方向 祝大家都能申請到”FIT”的學校!
Lightsaber
申請經驗分享+對傷咖及大衛李的感謝 (06~07)
分享心得遲了點，但是還是希望能夠提供未來申請的朋友一些參考
Profile: GMAT 710 Work experience: 5 yrs (2yrs military), last was PM in a high-tech company
申請結果: 2006~2007 second round Admitted: Indiana University – Bloomington (Kelley) --- Accept offer
Ohio State University (Fisher) University of Minnesota – Twin Cities (Carlson)
Rejected: University of Michigan – Ann Arbor (Ross) Duke University (Fuqua) University of Texas – Austin (McCombs)
感覺申請上競爭比前一年(06)激烈，不過還是能申請到各方面都很均衡的Kelley 申請過程中最困難的(除了GMAT…)就是選校及Essay撰寫了，我並沒有找代辦，我認為傷咖的許多文章討論對我幫助非常大，節省很多摸索時間，但是我要特別感謝"大衛"(davidlee), 大衛在課業繁忙中仍熱心抽空幫助我! 簡單來說選校及Essay撰寫就是圍繞著”Fit”，在進入Kelley這幾週以來，我越來越能夠體會大衛當初再三提醒Fit的重要性，大衛當初對Kelley的認識，也非常的正確 大衛也幫助我釐清許多申請的迷思，幫助我了解各校的資源強弱，讓我順利錄取理想的學校 David, you are really exceptional!!! 心得: FIT真的非常重要! 建議多思考自己的興趣結合可以提供資源的Program, 並和校友請教該校的文化及學校發展方向 祝大家都能申請到”FIT”的學校!
Testimonial 2
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=15111
negrogato.tw
UT-Austin (Accounting #1), UIUC (scholarship, Accounting also #1), UT-Dallas (scholarship)
傷心咖啡店 首頁 -> 行銷與顧問專案討論區
發表於: 2006-03-25 08:20 文章主題: Admitted by UT-Austin--感謝David顧問教室
話說我只是申請MPA,沒想過要請留學顧問-又貴又沒用 就自己搞了許久 但SOP始終搞不定.. 一直在版上有看到David的文..想想這人講話有時候還蠻機車的. 不如請他給個建議好了..應該會一針見血.. 眼看David就要飛出去了 終於提起勇氣就請這個陌生男子幫忙.. David先讓我填了張問卷，然後看問卷再問我問題.. Why MPA? 這個問題我也思考過許多次..因為很多人問我Why not MBA? 在跟David聊過後 堅定我選擇MPA的心，也對未來理出個方向... 再來就是改SOP了，關於順序跟表達的方式 David幫了許多忙 當然我最後還是有請在國外的人潤稿，但基本上比我的原版精簡多了(UIUC只要三百字) 我一直對自己沒信心..覺得 Austin大概是白繳錢的..沒想到居然上了.. 總共申請四家UIUC, UT-Austin, UT-dallas, Texas A&M TAMU沒上. 其他都上了 ~~感謝David~~
Admitted by UT-Austin—Thanks for David’s consulting session
negrogato.tw
UT-Austin (Accounting #1), UIUC (scholarship, Accounting also #1), UT-Dallas (scholarship)
I was about to apply MBA, never thought about hiring agencies, waste money and useless, then I did it by myself for a long while, I still couldn’t fix my Statement of Purpose (SOP).
I always read David’s articles on the website, and this guy was quite outspoken, why not asking for his help? It should be very sharp and to the point.
While David was about to study abroad, I finally encouraged myself to seek help from David.
David first asked me to fulfill the Career Assessment Sheet, and then asked me “Why MPA?” while reading it. I thought about this question many times, because others always asked me “Why NOT MBA?” After consulting with David, I made up my mind to study MPA, and figured out my career path.
Later, I revised my SOP and consulted David about sequence and presenting my idea, and of course I asked someone oversea to review my materials, but it was basically much concise than my original draft. (UIUC required only 300 words.)
I was always not confident of myself, and I thought applying UT-Austin was a waste of my money…but I got admitted!
I applied for four schools, UIUC, UT-Austin, UT-Dallas, and Texas A&M. I only missed TAMU, and got admitted by other three schools.
~Thank you, David~
negrogato.tw
UT-Austin (Accounting #1), UIUC (scholarship, Accounting also #1), UT-Dallas (scholarship)
傷心咖啡店 首頁 -> 行銷與顧問專案討論區
發表於: 2006-03-25 08:20 文章主題: Admitted by UT-Austin--感謝David顧問教室
話說我只是申請MPA,沒想過要請留學顧問-又貴又沒用 就自己搞了許久 但SOP始終搞不定.. 一直在版上有看到David的文..想想這人講話有時候還蠻機車的. 不如請他給個建議好了..應該會一針見血.. 眼看David就要飛出去了 終於提起勇氣就請這個陌生男子幫忙.. David先讓我填了張問卷，然後看問卷再問我問題.. Why MPA? 這個問題我也思考過許多次..因為很多人問我Why not MBA? 在跟David聊過後 堅定我選擇MPA的心，也對未來理出個方向... 再來就是改SOP了，關於順序跟表達的方式 David幫了許多忙 當然我最後還是有請在國外的人潤稿，但基本上比我的原版精簡多了(UIUC只要三百字) 我一直對自己沒信心..覺得 Austin大概是白繳錢的..沒想到居然上了.. 總共申請四家UIUC, UT-Austin, UT-dallas, Texas A&M TAMU沒上. 其他都上了 ~~感謝David~~
Admitted by UT-Austin—Thanks for David’s consulting session
negrogato.tw
UT-Austin (Accounting #1), UIUC (scholarship, Accounting also #1), UT-Dallas (scholarship)
I was about to apply MBA, never thought about hiring agencies, waste money and useless, then I did it by myself for a long while, I still couldn’t fix my Statement of Purpose (SOP).
I always read David’s articles on the website, and this guy was quite outspoken, why not asking for his help? It should be very sharp and to the point.
While David was about to study abroad, I finally encouraged myself to seek help from David.
David first asked me to fulfill the Career Assessment Sheet, and then asked me “Why MPA?” while reading it. I thought about this question many times, because others always asked me “Why NOT MBA?” After consulting with David, I made up my mind to study MPA, and figured out my career path.
Later, I revised my SOP and consulted David about sequence and presenting my idea, and of course I asked someone oversea to review my materials, but it was basically much concise than my original draft. (UIUC required only 300 words.)
I was always not confident of myself, and I thought applying UT-Austin was a waste of my money…but I got admitted!
I applied for four schools, UIUC, UT-Austin, UT-Dallas, and Texas A&M. I only missed TAMU, and got admitted by other three schools.
~Thank you, David~
[Career Explorer]版上前辈帮忙看下职业规划
Q:
版上前辈帮忙看下职业规划
本人专业土木工程，在设计院工作3年，对结构设计施工均熟悉，不想做一辈子低技术含量重复性劳动的设计工作，想读完MBA去美国的工程咨询公司做技术管理工作，最好能派回中国的，不知道有无可行性，版上的前辈帮忙参谋参谋。。。？
A:
有
可行性相当高
MBA训练即是为了培训主管人才而来
有专业技术背景会相当吃香
MBA管理训练课程中的企业组织结构
与软性的经理沟通技巧训练
营销,会计财务,供应链,生产管理,Project Management,Managerial Communication, Leadership...等等课程
以及大量会议与小组作业
将可训练您成为Tachnical Manager.
又由于大陆近年崛起, 职缺大增
美国商学院愿意大力培养人才回到大陆就业
以成长亚洲区域经济
只要将您的考试分数准备好
再将essay精致化
即可攻读美国MBA
版上前辈帮忙看下职业规划
本人专业土木工程，在设计院工作3年，对结构设计施工均熟悉，不想做一辈子低技术含量重复性劳动的设计工作，想读完MBA去美国的工程咨询公司做技术管理工作，最好能派回中国的，不知道有无可行性，版上的前辈帮忙参谋参谋。。。？
A:
有
可行性相当高
MBA训练即是为了培训主管人才而来
有专业技术背景会相当吃香
MBA管理训练课程中的企业组织结构
与软性的经理沟通技巧训练
营销,会计财务,供应链,生产管理,Project Management,Managerial Communication, Leadership...等等课程
以及大量会议与小组作业
将可训练您成为Tachnical Manager.
又由于大陆近年崛起, 职缺大增
美国商学院愿意大力培养人才回到大陆就业
以成长亚洲区域经济
只要将您的考试分数准备好
再将essay精致化
即可攻读美国MBA
[Program Fitting]诚心指教,能申请到什么学校
Q:
诚心指教,能申请到什么学校
国内小本top10 电子工程,IBM两年工作经验,主要是供应商管理. GMAT 700; 4.0 TOEFL ibt 104. GPA 3.0
今年申请了HKU的MSF,但还不知道能不能申到; 自己的目标是想转行做IB.
年龄也不小了,希望牛牛们能给点意见; 如果考不上的话,明年考美国的几个比较靠前的 msf program可行吗? 还是应该直接申请MBA更容易转投行? 还是应该再工作几年申比较靠前的MBA.....困惑不安中....
各位给出点主意吧
多谢拉
A:
AT托福分数都够
对于IB core schools Wharton, Chicago, Columbia, Darden, NYU, MIT...etc.都算够
GPA稍低
但主要是工作经验太浅
大概要四五年左右
或是有办法证明您的快速攀升潜力与五年资历的申请人经历相仿
另外是要证明有哪些能力特质适合IB
为什么会从IT supply chain转向IB
有哪些passion & capabilities让您想往IB产业发展
原则上投行是需要MBA的
因为要知道整体management structure
才有办法做valuation
并且需要具备一定程度的工作经验
以及高竞争力的MBA课程训练
MS与MBA的课程紧密程度与压力相较起来小巫见大巫
诚心指教,能申请到什么学校
国内小本top10 电子工程,IBM两年工作经验,主要是供应商管理. GMAT 700; 4.0 TOEFL ibt 104. GPA 3.0
今年申请了HKU的MSF,但还不知道能不能申到; 自己的目标是想转行做IB.
年龄也不小了,希望牛牛们能给点意见; 如果考不上的话,明年考美国的几个比较靠前的 msf program可行吗? 还是应该直接申请MBA更容易转投行? 还是应该再工作几年申比较靠前的MBA.....困惑不安中....
各位给出点主意吧
多谢拉
A:
AT托福分数都够
对于IB core schools Wharton, Chicago, Columbia, Darden, NYU, MIT...etc.都算够
GPA稍低
但主要是工作经验太浅
大概要四五年左右
或是有办法证明您的快速攀升潜力与五年资历的申请人经历相仿
另外是要证明有哪些能力特质适合IB
为什么会从IT supply chain转向IB
有哪些passion & capabilities让您想往IB产业发展
原则上投行是需要MBA的
因为要知道整体management structure
才有办法做valuation
并且需要具备一定程度的工作经验
以及高竞争力的MBA课程训练
MS与MBA的课程紧密程度与压力相较起来小巫见大巫
[Program Fitting]Fuqua vs. Ross
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Q:
I'm looking for a top Brand Mgmt position once I finish my Marketing degree in school. I've been accepted to both Ross and Fuqua R1(still waiting to hear back from Kellogg R2). Any advice btw Ross and Fuqua for Marketing assuming I do not get accepted to Kellogg??
Stats: African American...High GMAT/ High GPA/ Comp Sci
A:
When you're looking for top brand management position, since these two programs are pretty close as top schools, the program design matters but not ranking anymore.
The really successful brand managers need to satisfy customers from their bottom of heart, create loyalty and word-of-mouth to constantly generate profit, then grow your brand portfolio that match your business vision.
So you need to know consumer behavior and extract insignts from market intelligence, develop the right product features that satisfy their demands with right pricing, communicating them the right messages, then create loyally repurchasing pattern that generates sustainable profit to support your brand out of fierce competition.
The key courses that prepare you as a top brand manager are Brand Management, Customer Insignts, Market Research, Product Development, Pricing, Channel Management, CRM, Marketing Communications & Advertising, Marketing Strategy & Corporate Strategy, Sales & Forcast, Negotiation. Then depending on your specific industry, channel, or region, you might need Tech Marketing, B2B marketing, Service Marketing or International Marketing Management. Then the last and most significant challenge is how well can you manage the logistic and operation support.
Now see what these two schools offer. Ross offered Strategic Brand Management, but Fuqua doesn't have any brand management courses. It'll be a significant drawback if you learn all others but couldn't correlate all these efforts into a consistent brand theme.
So see what other courses they've got. Obviously Ross has much deeper and sophisticated program design that has Consumer Behavior, Customer Asset Management, Co-Create Value with Customers, Market Research Design & Analysis, Pricing Strategy & Tactics, Ad Management, Innovation & New Product Development, Distribution Strategy, Supply Chain Management. One special course is Leavraging industrial Design for Marketing Advantage that may make your brand stand out by highly customized value chain.
Of course Fuqua also has pretty well-rounded course selection for marketing, but it's clearly for Product Manager and Market Research Managers, not for Brand Managers. You cannot see the detailed and dynamic design like Ross. Fuqua has Consumer Behavior, Market Intelligence, Marketing Strategy, Product Management, Pricing, MarCom, CRM, Tech & Health Mktg, Distribution and Supply Chain. But a bit generic that not as specific as Ross
Q:
I'm looking for a top Brand Mgmt position once I finish my Marketing degree in school. I've been accepted to both Ross and Fuqua R1(still waiting to hear back from Kellogg R2). Any advice btw Ross and Fuqua for Marketing assuming I do not get accepted to Kellogg??
Stats: African American...High GMAT/ High GPA/ Comp Sci
A:
When you're looking for top brand management position, since these two programs are pretty close as top schools, the program design matters but not ranking anymore.
The really successful brand managers need to satisfy customers from their bottom of heart, create loyalty and word-of-mouth to constantly generate profit, then grow your brand portfolio that match your business vision.
So you need to know consumer behavior and extract insignts from market intelligence, develop the right product features that satisfy their demands with right pricing, communicating them the right messages, then create loyally repurchasing pattern that generates sustainable profit to support your brand out of fierce competition.
The key courses that prepare you as a top brand manager are Brand Management, Customer Insignts, Market Research, Product Development, Pricing, Channel Management, CRM, Marketing Communications & Advertising, Marketing Strategy & Corporate Strategy, Sales & Forcast, Negotiation. Then depending on your specific industry, channel, or region, you might need Tech Marketing, B2B marketing, Service Marketing or International Marketing Management. Then the last and most significant challenge is how well can you manage the logistic and operation support.
Now see what these two schools offer. Ross offered Strategic Brand Management, but Fuqua doesn't have any brand management courses. It'll be a significant drawback if you learn all others but couldn't correlate all these efforts into a consistent brand theme.
So see what other courses they've got. Obviously Ross has much deeper and sophisticated program design that has Consumer Behavior, Customer Asset Management, Co-Create Value with Customers, Market Research Design & Analysis, Pricing Strategy & Tactics, Ad Management, Innovation & New Product Development, Distribution Strategy, Supply Chain Management. One special course is Leavraging industrial Design for Marketing Advantage that may make your brand stand out by highly customized value chain.
Of course Fuqua also has pretty well-rounded course selection for marketing, but it's clearly for Product Manager and Market Research Managers, not for Brand Managers. You cannot see the detailed and dynamic design like Ross. Fuqua has Consumer Behavior, Market Intelligence, Marketing Strategy, Product Management, Pricing, MarCom, CRM, Tech & Health Mktg, Distribution and Supply Chain. But a bit generic that not as specific as Ross
[Career Explorer]Ding dong ding :( (2)
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Q:
770/Indian/M/26/3+ WE/Decent Community service/academically strong profile/extra-currics great till college - dinged at Wharton/Stanford/Chicago/Harvard - without even an interview!!! :) hoping to make it this year to a few of the other programs...
Am sure of what i'd want to do but not to the granularity (nature of consultancy etc) outlined - flexible and open to that extent. Also, need to marry fitment with long as well as short term goals... :)
A:
The fundamental way to find out your career fit is to examine your every turning point in your career. Find out the consistency or pattern, find out what exactly did you think at each point, you chose a job but not b job because of what specific issues, and what job content you really like vs what you really don't. Is the consulting job itself exciting to you? or the high salary motivates you? Since it lies in your nature that if you have consulting eyes, it should not be hard to tell the adcom your observation and analysis about the trend, or it's also easy to analyze your career and schools.
Another way is to find out your motivation. People's minds are subject to inertia like normal objects, there's a balance power in everyone's mind. Find out what power is pushing you in what direction, you can find it out by speaking to your friends and family, or sometimes you can figure out by listening to yourself in recorder. Sometimes the motivation is in disguise that you need to discompose that into smaller pieces, then you'll see how they lined up and why exactly you want to go to these top schools.
You can see from those greatest essays which got admissions into the schools you're targeting, almost all of them had done this process, and that's why those talented people can write so deeply about their lifes and line it up from the beginning.
Q:
770/Indian/M/26/3+ WE/Decent Community service/academically strong profile/extra-currics great till college - dinged at Wharton/Stanford/Chicago/Harvard - without even an interview!!! :) hoping to make it this year to a few of the other programs...
Am sure of what i'd want to do but not to the granularity (nature of consultancy etc) outlined - flexible and open to that extent. Also, need to marry fitment with long as well as short term goals... :)
A:
The fundamental way to find out your career fit is to examine your every turning point in your career. Find out the consistency or pattern, find out what exactly did you think at each point, you chose a job but not b job because of what specific issues, and what job content you really like vs what you really don't. Is the consulting job itself exciting to you? or the high salary motivates you? Since it lies in your nature that if you have consulting eyes, it should not be hard to tell the adcom your observation and analysis about the trend, or it's also easy to analyze your career and schools.
Another way is to find out your motivation. People's minds are subject to inertia like normal objects, there's a balance power in everyone's mind. Find out what power is pushing you in what direction, you can find it out by speaking to your friends and family, or sometimes you can figure out by listening to yourself in recorder. Sometimes the motivation is in disguise that you need to discompose that into smaller pieces, then you'll see how they lined up and why exactly you want to go to these top schools.
You can see from those greatest essays which got admissions into the schools you're targeting, almost all of them had done this process, and that's why those talented people can write so deeply about their lifes and line it up from the beginning.
2008年2月13日 星期三
[Career Explorer]What can i do now
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Q:
I am a Chinese student , study at a characterless university and Computer Science is my major. Teacher give me C language, C++ language ,Assemble language and many other language like these to learn. I assuredly have learnt a lot about computer basic science, but after two years' studying on this major I find I have lost myself at school at studying.I nerver have any spirit that i have had in my high school period in studying my major.I still don't know why for the sterile class or for other ? I think have to give up my major now and find another that can give me the spirit i want to have.What can i do now?
A:
if you're not passionate in the field anymore, it'll be meaningless to have that degree, and the degree itself might even restrain you from other desired opportunities.
Find out your passion for life, and pursue it persistently.
Q:
I am a Chinese student , study at a characterless university and Computer Science is my major. Teacher give me C language, C++ language ,Assemble language and many other language like these to learn. I assuredly have learnt a lot about computer basic science, but after two years' studying on this major I find I have lost myself at school at studying.I nerver have any spirit that i have had in my high school period in studying my major.I still don't know why for the sterile class or for other ? I think have to give up my major now and find another that can give me the spirit i want to have.What can i do now?
A:
if you're not passionate in the field anymore, it'll be meaningless to have that degree, and the degree itself might even restrain you from other desired opportunities.
Find out your passion for life, and pursue it persistently.
[Career Explorer]plz help
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Q:
hey...... i am in my second year of graduation, pursuing hospitality mngm. from RMI, affiliated by Thames Valley University, London (one of the best schools for HM in U.K.). I want to know whether my college will be considered when i aplly for an MBA in any UK/US B-school (as it is affiliated by a foriegn university with its campus in India and the degree is not recognized by AICTE, Indian government but recognized globally). I have 1 year work exp. with Hilton group of hotels as a trainee and has 6 months w/e in a call centre and in a cargo trading company. I also did 20 weeks of charity and have won a lot of cerificates for cricket, drama and various other extracurricular activities. I wish to appear for the GMAT in my fourth year (2008) and get more w/e after giving my GAMT as we can apply on the basis of five year old scores. I'll be grateful to you if you can help me in any way and tell me from your experience that whether or not i'm going in a right direction and what else is there that i need to do.......????
A:
Simply work at least 2 years longer. So far you only have preliminary work exp that has very limited inspiration on your managerial capacity.
Don't worry about your school name as long as it's a internationally recognized.
You have great opportunity if you're passionate in hospitality industry since you got a decent degree in the field and a prestigious training program in the field. Also you have the front-line customer relationship management experience in a call center. The only thing is why you transferred to a less related cargo industry. And why you want to pursue an MBA in this timeframe.
You also need to depict why you dedicated in charity activities and what's the meaning of those certificates for your career or for your life. Then find out what's the relevance to the MBA program.
Find out your career passion, set up your career objectives, find out the gap between ideal and now, the the fit MBA programs will emerge by themselves.
David
Q:
hey...... i am in my second year of graduation, pursuing hospitality mngm. from RMI, affiliated by Thames Valley University, London (one of the best schools for HM in U.K.). I want to know whether my college will be considered when i aplly for an MBA in any UK/US B-school (as it is affiliated by a foriegn university with its campus in India and the degree is not recognized by AICTE, Indian government but recognized globally). I have 1 year work exp. with Hilton group of hotels as a trainee and has 6 months w/e in a call centre and in a cargo trading company. I also did 20 weeks of charity and have won a lot of cerificates for cricket, drama and various other extracurricular activities. I wish to appear for the GMAT in my fourth year (2008) and get more w/e after giving my GAMT as we can apply on the basis of five year old scores. I'll be grateful to you if you can help me in any way and tell me from your experience that whether or not i'm going in a right direction and what else is there that i need to do.......????
A:
Simply work at least 2 years longer. So far you only have preliminary work exp that has very limited inspiration on your managerial capacity.
Don't worry about your school name as long as it's a internationally recognized.
You have great opportunity if you're passionate in hospitality industry since you got a decent degree in the field and a prestigious training program in the field. Also you have the front-line customer relationship management experience in a call center. The only thing is why you transferred to a less related cargo industry. And why you want to pursue an MBA in this timeframe.
You also need to depict why you dedicated in charity activities and what's the meaning of those certificates for your career or for your life. Then find out what's the relevance to the MBA program.
Find out your career passion, set up your career objectives, find out the gap between ideal and now, the the fit MBA programs will emerge by themselves.
David
[Program Fitting]Ding dong ding :(
Q:
770/Indian/M/26/3+ WE/Decent Community service/academically strong profile/extra-currics great till college - dinged at Wharton/Stanford/Chicago/Harvard - without even an interview!!! :) hoping to make it this year to a few of the other programs...
A:
It depends heavily on your career goals, and what part of MBA you need.
You are a bit too young compare to the majority of students in these schools. They have 5~6 yr exp on average.
Although your GMAT score is really high, you need convince adcoms where's your managerial potential to allow you study in such competitive programs now. Probably you're fast-tracker that you achieve the comparable scope with those 6 yr exp mgers.
Also, these four schools have totally different positioning that Wharton is conglamerate management with superior consulting, Standford is innovative and entrepreneurial corporate management, Chicago is corporate strategy and quantitative economy consultancy, where as Harvard is corporate restructuring and intrapreneurship.
You need to find out your career direction and passion first, then the fit schools will emerge by themselves. Then do the personal marketing on essays.
David
770/Indian/M/26/3+ WE/Decent Community service/academically strong profile/extra-currics great till college - dinged at Wharton/Stanford/Chicago/Harvard - without even an interview!!! :) hoping to make it this year to a few of the other programs...
A:
It depends heavily on your career goals, and what part of MBA you need.
You are a bit too young compare to the majority of students in these schools. They have 5~6 yr exp on average.
Although your GMAT score is really high, you need convince adcoms where's your managerial potential to allow you study in such competitive programs now. Probably you're fast-tracker that you achieve the comparable scope with those 6 yr exp mgers.
Also, these four schools have totally different positioning that Wharton is conglamerate management with superior consulting, Standford is innovative and entrepreneurial corporate management, Chicago is corporate strategy and quantitative economy consultancy, where as Harvard is corporate restructuring and intrapreneurship.
You need to find out your career direction and passion first, then the fit schools will emerge by themselves. Then do the personal marketing on essays.
David
[Program Fitting]McCombs Vs USC Marshall
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Q:
My friend has been accepted at both, McCombs and USC Marshall. He is in Sapient as a tech consultant and wants to be in tech marketing. Please let me know which school would be better with your reasons. I appreciate...thanks
A:It's a pretty close call here. Generally McCombs ranks slightly higher than Marshall, and student body is also very similar with 5-year experience. A half of McCombs graduates works in investment and finance field, with very decent 90,000+ salary. This should be one of the critical reason for better ranking than Marshall.
McComb is a supreme #1 accounting school, while quite balanced in general management. Some improvement in marketing field this year that they now have brand management course which used to be absent. Quite generic in marketing strategy whereas Marshall is more detailed in marketing communication and execution.
In terms of finance, McCombs is not bad that offers general finance cources, but Marshall offers larger selection in this field. This is the blind spot that the rankings cannot measure the qualitative sophistication and completeness of course offering.
Marshall is now more dedicated in entrepreneurship development that is the trend of the most competitive programs are now heading.
So it really depends on what's your friend's career path in future.
David
[Program Fitting]請教一下這樣的分數跟經歷
問:
GMAT只有610+3.5 TOEFL PBT 623+4 工作經驗 義務役排長1.8 yr 某美商記憶體模組公司senior engineer 5 yr 推薦人:直屬老闆+日本記憶體大廠客人 這樣還有資格申請第三輪嗎??真的很怕但是很想再申請前知道一下機率 我是希望能到30~60deadline 還沒到的學校
答:
有 頂多只是分數問題 大約是40~70名左右的學校 這樣的AT分數要進40以上有一定難度
GMAT只有610+3.5 TOEFL PBT 623+4 工作經驗 義務役排長1.8 yr 某美商記憶體模組公司senior engineer 5 yr 推薦人:直屬老闆+日本記憶體大廠客人 這樣還有資格申請第三輪嗎??真的很怕但是很想再申請前知道一下機率 我是希望能到30~60deadline 還沒到的學校
答:
有 頂多只是分數問題 大約是40~70名左右的學校 這樣的AT分數要進40以上有一定難度
[Career Explorer]對不起，我有些問題想要請問一下?
問:
我現在還沒考AT跟Toefl， 而我的工作經驗有兩年然後就跑去考研究所， 大學念的是交大，研究所念的是台大， 都是電資方面的而現在準備在工作兩年， 但是我大學的GPA分數很低，可能不到3吧， 原本打算研究所是出國念，誰知道體檢後要當兵， 所以也就一邊工作一邊等體檢，所以大學畢業的那兩年 就不是在甚麼大公司上班。 而研究所畢業後，很幸運得找到了一間很不錯的外商， 所以我打算工作兩年後出國念mba，因為我之前看了板上的文章， 說當兵有算進去工作經驗，而我當兵的時候是當預官， 而我打算在這一間外商工作兩年後出國念書， 這樣對於我的規劃會有甚麼問題嗎?? 因為我很擔心我大學的gpa不夠高，而我研究所有發表過paper可以彌補嗎?? 我覺得要念就要念不錯的mba，不然其實有點浪費時間跟浪費金錢， 我想利用兩年的時間一邊準備AT跟toefl，順便想一想我的essay要怎麼寫， 希望板上的各位可以給我一點意見，讓我知道我要如何彌補我的gpa。 這樣算一算我的工作經驗有五年多，這樣申請的話可以把gpa的因素降到最低嗎?? 謝謝大家，也希望大家可以給我多一點意見。
答:
有.
會成為很典型的倒果為因 why mba? so far you don't have any motivation but a degree.
need to find why you need this training,
what part do you need,
and how do you want to leverage that after this degree.
what's your short-term and long-term goals,
where's your passion,
why you need this degree to fulfill your passion?
工作經驗與paper 都可以彌補GPA,
or you can have an explanation during your master study.
其他要等GMAT與托福出來才有辦法討論
我現在還沒考AT跟Toefl， 而我的工作經驗有兩年然後就跑去考研究所， 大學念的是交大，研究所念的是台大， 都是電資方面的而現在準備在工作兩年， 但是我大學的GPA分數很低，可能不到3吧， 原本打算研究所是出國念，誰知道體檢後要當兵， 所以也就一邊工作一邊等體檢，所以大學畢業的那兩年 就不是在甚麼大公司上班。 而研究所畢業後，很幸運得找到了一間很不錯的外商， 所以我打算工作兩年後出國念mba，因為我之前看了板上的文章， 說當兵有算進去工作經驗，而我當兵的時候是當預官， 而我打算在這一間外商工作兩年後出國念書， 這樣對於我的規劃會有甚麼問題嗎?? 因為我很擔心我大學的gpa不夠高，而我研究所有發表過paper可以彌補嗎?? 我覺得要念就要念不錯的mba，不然其實有點浪費時間跟浪費金錢， 我想利用兩年的時間一邊準備AT跟toefl，順便想一想我的essay要怎麼寫， 希望板上的各位可以給我一點意見，讓我知道我要如何彌補我的gpa。 這樣算一算我的工作經驗有五年多，這樣申請的話可以把gpa的因素降到最低嗎?? 謝謝大家，也希望大家可以給我多一點意見。
答:
有.
會成為很典型的倒果為因 why mba? so far you don't have any motivation but a degree.
need to find why you need this training,
what part do you need,
and how do you want to leverage that after this degree.
what's your short-term and long-term goals,
where's your passion,
why you need this degree to fulfill your passion?
工作經驗與paper 都可以彌補GPA,
or you can have an explanation during your master study.
其他要等GMAT與托福出來才有辦法討論
2008年2月12日 星期二
[Career Explorer]Please Gui de :Supply chain mgmt MBA
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Q:
Hi ,I have got admission in 2 B schools.I wanted to MBA in Supply Chain management.But yesterday i was searching in google Supply chain jobs in USA i could se only Truck transporation and very local (non reputed ) companies in my search results.Now i have two doubts:One is if i do Supply chain MBA what type of profile i will get after grad. I wanted to be in strategic consulting in Supply chain domain. I have 3 years expeience in IT Consulting.What are he companies which take supply chain grads.Second is the type of comanies i cud see in my google i was confused if such coimpanies do sponsor the H1B job for international students . In other words, leaving finance and IT does the US copmanies sponsor fo r H1B for SCM doamin?Thanks
A:Supply chain has very broad application in real-world operations. Sourcing, procurement, logistics, transportations, lean productions, inventory management, assembly line...etc., you name it.
Basically from the manufacturing line til market, everything from outside the factory are related to supply chain. Automobile industry is a typical field to go. Also manufacturing industries. IT industry need it too.
You can go IT industry to consult them the efficiency inhancement on supply chain management.
For the H1B issue, it really depends on what specific skills or advantages over American MBAs you've got and what specific position and functionality the recruitor needs from you.
You may have some cultural or language advantage to help your future company grow. The American companies are more likely send you back to your country, while you can try the companies from your country but now based in the U.S. might be easier.
[Program Fitting]How good are these schools?
Q:
Hi,i am an international college senior looking to do an mba straight out of college.Ive applied to many schools but its my backups that i want some feedback on:How do you think the university of alabama (manderson), the university of missouri-columbia (Crosby MBA) and Claremont Graduate University (Drucker) fare as a decent place to get an mba and expect a job after graduation?i dont care that much about regions, would be happy to stay within the region, just want to know how good are these programs to actually pursue them............(given i expect to receive great financial aid offers)i know they are great regional programs......just wanted everyone's opinions of them.....Thanks.Gus
A:
Hi
No big difference among these 3 schools for your future job
no matter what fin aid they offer you
and generally speaking, MBA are more effective for 3+ yr work experience pro-managers
students with more solid experience can extract more from the MBA learning
and you can also contribute more in your classes
with several experience can significantly help you apply for more competitive schools
Cheers!
dave
Hi,i am an international college senior looking to do an mba straight out of college.Ive applied to many schools but its my backups that i want some feedback on:How do you think the university of alabama (manderson), the university of missouri-columbia (Crosby MBA) and Claremont Graduate University (Drucker) fare as a decent place to get an mba and expect a job after graduation?i dont care that much about regions, would be happy to stay within the region, just want to know how good are these programs to actually pursue them............(given i expect to receive great financial aid offers)i know they are great regional programs......just wanted everyone's opinions of them.....Thanks.Gus
A:
Hi
No big difference among these 3 schools for your future job
no matter what fin aid they offer you
and generally speaking, MBA are more effective for 3+ yr work experience pro-managers
students with more solid experience can extract more from the MBA learning
and you can also contribute more in your classes
with several experience can significantly help you apply for more competitive schools
Cheers!
dave
[Personal Branding]Georgetown MBA (McDonough) in person interview
[傷咖]:
大概問題如下, 不按次序:
Why MBA Why Georgetown Short-term/ Long-Term goals (這題我是包含在我Why MBA + Why Georgetown裡回答, 然後她再問一些她比較想知道的)
Your contribution to the class
Negative leadership experience
Which activities do you like (因為某題答了backpacking travel, 我就多答了reading, 她有問我最近念完那一本書, 我...開始free的回答了@_@") 再來就是問問題時間, 但我只夠問兩個問題...
解析:
樓主被問到一題相當關鍵 Negative leadership experience
這題的重要性將比positive leadership還要高出好幾倍
可以看到潛力領導人的許多人格面向與改進方向
有強勁領導慾望卻又有過negative leadership將會像困獸一般
想盡辦法擺脫失敗經驗
但也要看潛力領導者如何自我檢討與學習
如何體驗領導的奧義
這是領導學的真意
Leadership is love
大概問題如下, 不按次序:
Why MBA Why Georgetown Short-term/ Long-Term goals (這題我是包含在我Why MBA + Why Georgetown裡回答, 然後她再問一些她比較想知道的)
Your contribution to the class
Negative leadership experience
Which activities do you like (因為某題答了backpacking travel, 我就多答了reading, 她有問我最近念完那一本書, 我...開始free的回答了@_@") 再來就是問問題時間, 但我只夠問兩個問題...
解析:
樓主被問到一題相當關鍵 Negative leadership experience
這題的重要性將比positive leadership還要高出好幾倍
可以看到潛力領導人的許多人格面向與改進方向
有強勁領導慾望卻又有過negative leadership將會像困獸一般
想盡辦法擺脫失敗經驗
但也要看潛力領導者如何自我檢討與學習
如何體驗領導的奧義
這是領導學的真意
Leadership is love
2008年2月11日 星期一
[Career Explorer]什么人适合去美国读MBA
MBA是为了个人的生涯发展念的
每个人要的不一样
有人要钱,
有人要了解如何经营事业
有人要用兴趣工作
也有人只想找个人嫁了
有人家里事业钱多到不行
只是想出来逛逛
看别人念自己也来念一个
有的为名利
名校出来别人会刮目相看
或是有个响亮头衔
问题是您过的快不快乐
快乐是用钱买不到的
尤其在事业上不管再强的名校毕业出来
三十年余生您每天将有一半以上时间要花在工作
要是工作本身无法带给您快乐
后半余生将会在痛苦中度过
无论如何
MBA是个综合管理课程教学
不管谁念了出来
即使名校也不一定让你找的到工作
只有一步步体验了解自己的生涯热情与需求
结合MBA的各项细部课程
如:营销, 财务, 生产管理, 供应链, 领导学, 组织行为学...etc.
毕业出来面对余生三十年要如何每天开开心心过日子
做自己想做的工作赚取所需
经营家庭度过理想的生活
只有自己的快乐才是别人抢不走的
古今中外的成功者决大多数都是因为找到自己的生涯热情
靠着兴趣与热情一步一步经营事业
才會名留千古
也只有不断尝试不断朝自己的事业热情趋近
再来配合MBA的商业学问模型
来增强自己事业经营的能力与规模
最终能同时获取事业成就
快快乐乐度日
每个人要的不一样
有人要钱,
有人要了解如何经营事业
有人要用兴趣工作
也有人只想找个人嫁了
有人家里事业钱多到不行
只是想出来逛逛
看别人念自己也来念一个
有的为名利
名校出来别人会刮目相看
或是有个响亮头衔
问题是您过的快不快乐
快乐是用钱买不到的
尤其在事业上不管再强的名校毕业出来
三十年余生您每天将有一半以上时间要花在工作
要是工作本身无法带给您快乐
后半余生将会在痛苦中度过
无论如何
MBA是个综合管理课程教学
不管谁念了出来
即使名校也不一定让你找的到工作
只有一步步体验了解自己的生涯热情与需求
结合MBA的各项细部课程
如:营销, 财务, 生产管理, 供应链, 领导学, 组织行为学...etc.
毕业出来面对余生三十年要如何每天开开心心过日子
做自己想做的工作赚取所需
经营家庭度过理想的生活
只有自己的快乐才是别人抢不走的
古今中外的成功者决大多数都是因为找到自己的生涯热情
靠着兴趣与热情一步一步经营事业
才會名留千古
也只有不断尝试不断朝自己的事业热情趋近
再来配合MBA的商业学问模型
来增强自己事业经营的能力与规模
最终能同时获取事业成就
快快乐乐度日
[Career Explorer]Why MBA???
問:
赚高薪, 换行业, 有面子, 挣学历, 长见识, 交朋友, 职业发展, 梦想, 喜欢学习, 生活平淡, 将来成立公司, 其他?
答:
MBA是综合管理训练
原则上设计给工作四至五年的经理或储备经理
进行系统化管理训练
为的是在累积了硬式技术能力,
与工作经验后再进阶训练软式管理与沟通能力
帮企业达成利润最大化
并完成个人生涯兴趣与目标
企业以营利为目的
必须要从市场需求出发
一切会从市场营销开始
marketing实务是需要完整结合前后端
从前端real market到后端supply chain
从市场环境调查
到竞争环境分析与品牌定位
到产品设计设计出来要打样试产
连结到后端的operation management跟supply chain
不论是manufacturering or outsourcing
生产出来后试卖连结到sales force management
前端的业务市场实战
中间广告的设计跟公关与事件行销执行
会牵扯到IMC整合行销传播
中期市调与后期市调要结合业务端业绩比对
还要有整合服务善后的CRM顾客关系管理
大量生产后配合产品生命周期PLC的产品成熟期与衰退期
调整operation端的lean production以削减成本
做dynamic pricing的定价竞争
中间每个细微环节都是钱
所以会一直有个会计跟在你旁边
你要听的懂他的语言
不然他会一直咬你耳朵
由于市场又是动态
钱不够要找老板要
老板没钱或是根本不想给就要找人想办法去生$
另一方面为了看懂竞争厂商
了解未来走向跟整体市场动态所以就要了解财务
行销方案很简单谁都会写
照着framework 123就生出来了
闭着眼睛都有
不符合市场情况就等于瞎子摸象
写半天后端生产做不出来就是天马行空不切实际
厂务跟外包厂会例行性找你complain
做出来了不符合客户要求
前端业务就会来找你打架说你在乱搞
在写方案时每行字都是预算所以一直要跟会计勾心斗脚
基本上这些实务工作经验不足很难想像
念完回来怎么一天到晚跟公司同事处不好
业务来吵架生产来堵人
内忧外患会计咬耳朵外包压低价产品有瑕疵
等工作经验够了以后觉得奇怪明明学过怎么又都串不起来
为什么总是有人跳出来帮你串
等到发现了人家已经有了这个学位
是人家工作好几年以后发现全盘情况
原来整个全球市场是一个大圆圈
我们看到的只是里面一小块拼图这
整个串起来的实务学位叫做MBA
赚高薪, 换行业, 有面子, 挣学历, 长见识, 交朋友, 职业发展, 梦想, 喜欢学习, 生活平淡, 将来成立公司, 其他?
答:
MBA是综合管理训练
原则上设计给工作四至五年的经理或储备经理
进行系统化管理训练
为的是在累积了硬式技术能力,
与工作经验后再进阶训练软式管理与沟通能力
帮企业达成利润最大化
并完成个人生涯兴趣与目标
企业以营利为目的
必须要从市场需求出发
一切会从市场营销开始
marketing实务是需要完整结合前后端
从前端real market到后端supply chain
从市场环境调查
到竞争环境分析与品牌定位
到产品设计设计出来要打样试产
连结到后端的operation management跟supply chain
不论是manufacturering or outsourcing
生产出来后试卖连结到sales force management
前端的业务市场实战
中间广告的设计跟公关与事件行销执行
会牵扯到IMC整合行销传播
中期市调与后期市调要结合业务端业绩比对
还要有整合服务善后的CRM顾客关系管理
大量生产后配合产品生命周期PLC的产品成熟期与衰退期
调整operation端的lean production以削减成本
做dynamic pricing的定价竞争
中间每个细微环节都是钱
所以会一直有个会计跟在你旁边
你要听的懂他的语言
不然他会一直咬你耳朵
由于市场又是动态
钱不够要找老板要
老板没钱或是根本不想给就要找人想办法去生$
另一方面为了看懂竞争厂商
了解未来走向跟整体市场动态所以就要了解财务
行销方案很简单谁都会写
照着framework 123就生出来了
闭着眼睛都有
不符合市场情况就等于瞎子摸象
写半天后端生产做不出来就是天马行空不切实际
厂务跟外包厂会例行性找你complain
做出来了不符合客户要求
前端业务就会来找你打架说你在乱搞
在写方案时每行字都是预算所以一直要跟会计勾心斗脚
基本上这些实务工作经验不足很难想像
念完回来怎么一天到晚跟公司同事处不好
业务来吵架生产来堵人
内忧外患会计咬耳朵外包压低价产品有瑕疵
等工作经验够了以后觉得奇怪明明学过怎么又都串不起来
为什么总是有人跳出来帮你串
等到发现了人家已经有了这个学位
是人家工作好几年以后发现全盘情况
原来整个全球市场是一个大圆圈
我们看到的只是里面一小块拼图这
整个串起来的实务学位叫做MBA
[Program Fitting]my visit to OSU Fisher
CDer發言:
I visited OSU Fisher the day before yesterday. It is a great school. The faculties are awesome and the harmony of the community really touches me a lot. Besides, the stadium is amazing. The campus is near downtown and the airport. Columbus is a nice city. And it was not as cold as I had expected. Another thing I like about Fisher is that you can take courses of any other schools of OSU without extra pay. Of course, the condition is that you are able to manage your time well.
解析:
OSU的营销管理与价值链前后端整合
课程非常坚强完整令人震蹑
从市场前端导到后端生产环环相扣
前端市场领导的业务营销
与中端的物流供应链整合
到后端的生产品管全部一以贯之
为满足市场需求而进行行销结合
供应链与生产才能产生最大企业利润
而硬体知识具备后
结合团队的软性领导训练
前后完整贯串并完全呼应
几乎没有赘课
是相当经典的营销管理学校
Logistics and Operation也相当完整
Customer Driven Manufacturing in the Global Market
与Strategic Design of Operations/Logistics Systems
以及Implement/Managing Lean Processes 是相当经典的课程
是能将企业后援配合市场需求最佳化的背后主力
I visited OSU Fisher the day before yesterday. It is a great school. The faculties are awesome and the harmony of the community really touches me a lot. Besides, the stadium is amazing. The campus is near downtown and the airport. Columbus is a nice city. And it was not as cold as I had expected. Another thing I like about Fisher is that you can take courses of any other schools of OSU without extra pay. Of course, the condition is that you are able to manage your time well.
解析:
OSU的营销管理与价值链前后端整合
课程非常坚强完整令人震蹑
从市场前端导到后端生产环环相扣
前端市场领导的业务营销
与中端的物流供应链整合
到后端的生产品管全部一以贯之
为满足市场需求而进行行销结合
供应链与生产才能产生最大企业利润
而硬体知识具备后
结合团队的软性领导训练
前后完整贯串并完全呼应
几乎没有赘课
是相当经典的营销管理学校
Logistics and Operation也相当完整
Customer Driven Manufacturing in the Global Market
与Strategic Design of Operations/Logistics Systems
以及Implement/Managing Lean Processes 是相当经典的课程
是能将企业后援配合市场需求最佳化的背后主力
[Career Explorer]进退两难，恳请前辈们指教
問:
本人大四应届毕业生，经济类，本来有出国打算，本科国内算的上TOP10吧，GPA，GMAT都还不错，申请的是金融硕士，现在的情况是，有几个一般的offer, 剩下的还在等。说来真是好笑，申请前是满腔的热忱和投入，申请完后冷静下来思考之后居然犹豫了。。。
现在的想法是，如果没有拿到心仪的offer暂时不打算出去了，因为考虑到这对家里来说是一笔不小的开支，要么不去，去了就要物有所值。眼下工作方面有个银行的offer, 我想问问各位过来人，如果在银行工作1，2年后觉得有必要的话再申请金融硕士或MBA的话会不会学的更加有针对性，吸收的更好，同样的一笔教育投资更加值得？还有本科的学历在职位提升时会受到限制吗？
父母认为花了那么大的心血考试，申请，就算不是dream school 也值得出去长长见识，以后年纪大了牵绊的事情多了不一定还有决心出去
实在是痛苦啊，一想到这个抉择就好几晚的失眠，很想聆听前辈们的看法。。。欢迎任何真诚的意见！
答:
楼主现在主要问题不在申请什么学校
而是为什么要念
原则上MBA是给累积了五年左右工作经验的准经理阶层来念的
工作经验没有四年以上念了都几乎没有效果
目前不论任何内力外力影响所产生的留学想法
很可能都是揠苗助长
毕业后会很没竞争力
因为原本根基工作经验就少
为何而念的动机与方向不清
念了无法消化
各大核心竞争力都不太会提升
出来又晚了人家两年
跟工作两年的人竞争
没有实战经验学历再高也用处不大
又由于MBA是设计给五年以上经验来念
雇主对MBA毕业生的要求非常高
若想待在美国都是跟五到八年左右的白人经理竞争
今年美国九成以上公司不发工作签证
大家都找不到工作几乎全数回国
每年MBA数万人都回国求职
竞争空前巨大
若因为工作经验浅MBA无法学以致用
空有学历没有应用执行能力
许多MBA毕业回国工作找不到
即使找到薪水也相当低
被当大学生来用
不如工作几年后经历过工作磨练后再出来
才会知道MBA的工具模型该如何实用
2008年2月10日 星期日
[Personal Branding]面试时候如果被要求walk him through my resume
問:
面试时候如果被要求walk him through my resume,一般是从现在开始讲起好还是从大学毕业开始讲起好?
答:
you'll only have about 90 second to explain your career
so you need to articulate it very precisely,
or the committee will mark you as less efficient in communication
or even not clear in career ladder.
First thing is "sign-posting"
use one concise sentence to tell the committee what your overall career is about
e.g. "I have 5 years marketing experience in telecommunication industry."
Your career should be objective-oriented
when they say "walk through," it means chronological. It'll be more clear for them to start from your first job or even the college major.
Second step is you need to tell them the logic why you built your career like this, and where is your future goal.
just like "since I love marketing, so I majored in marketing, and expanded my scope step by step, from marketing assistant, to marketing planner, and finally to marketing manager."
If your career is not logical, you should tell them why you switched your career like that, sometimes it was due to some inevitable reasons, but it should still be reasonable.
Third thing is to show them your career highlights, and it should have some signs of growing.
"I acquired marketing communication skills and dealt with some small clients in my first job, then I dealt with Motorola in my second job, and finally I led the marketing team as a manager."
The final thing is to tell them the reason you are here.
"But since I had some obstacles in dealing with supply chain and finance, so I need an MBA."
That's why the resume are for. It's your career record. They need to see the logic and the sign of growth in it, and also need to know your future goals and motivations.
面试时候如果被要求walk him through my resume,一般是从现在开始讲起好还是从大学毕业开始讲起好?
答:
you'll only have about 90 second to explain your career
so you need to articulate it very precisely,
or the committee will mark you as less efficient in communication
or even not clear in career ladder.
First thing is "sign-posting"
use one concise sentence to tell the committee what your overall career is about
e.g. "I have 5 years marketing experience in telecommunication industry."
Your career should be objective-oriented
when they say "walk through," it means chronological. It'll be more clear for them to start from your first job or even the college major.
Second step is you need to tell them the logic why you built your career like this, and where is your future goal.
just like "since I love marketing, so I majored in marketing, and expanded my scope step by step, from marketing assistant, to marketing planner, and finally to marketing manager."
If your career is not logical, you should tell them why you switched your career like that, sometimes it was due to some inevitable reasons, but it should still be reasonable.
Third thing is to show them your career highlights, and it should have some signs of growing.
"I acquired marketing communication skills and dealt with some small clients in my first job, then I dealt with Motorola in my second job, and finally I led the marketing team as a manager."
The final thing is to tell them the reason you are here.
"But since I had some obstacles in dealing with supply chain and finance, so I need an MBA."
That's why the resume are for. It's your career record. They need to see the logic and the sign of growth in it, and also need to know your future goals and motivations.
2008年2月8日 星期五
[Program Fitting]IESE & Georgetown MBA
Question:
Hello everyone,
I would love to have your advices on my school choosing. I am admitted by IESE and Georgetown. It is a hard decision for me to choose the right school between IESE Business school (Spain, ranked #11 globally & #5 in Europe by Financial Times.) & Georgetown McDonough Business School (US, ranked #38 globally & #19 in US by Financial Times.) I took all of my efforts to apply both of them and now I suffer to give up anyone. I love to study in US but I can't ignore the future niche strength if I study in the prestigious Spanish bilingual MBA, on the other hand, I believe the fact of location is everything so that studying in US, in DC, will help me to broaden my life experiences. If it’s available, I would like to have your and advices from an objective prospective, please kindly share your thoughts and I would be more than happy to have your advices. Thank you so much and may all the best be with you.
Answer:
It's a critical decision since it's not only about the curriculum and rankings
but about the whole learning environment, culture, community...everything
and the outcome you're aiming at for your career
personally I studied in Europe before so I can share with you that it's a totally different planet there
economy, culture, business environment, legal structure, languages, value system, holidays, union system, recruiting process, people...etc.
especially you're going to study business, it's a big trade-off decision you'll have to make
I have friend study in IESE now, you may probably get more understanding about the school and the environment there
In terms of ranking, IESE is higher, one reason is the curriculum is more sophisticated than in Georgetown McDonough,
but not much since McDonough is also quite competitive on program design and the well-roundness. It seems IESE has a big bet on case studies that may affect in learning process, but it depends on how you value this approach for your study.
generally the curriculum itself now only plays a small part
since too many issues you need to juggle
although Spanish is quite a useful tool
it really depends on your future career, your learning capacity on language, and which part of world will you spend mostly on your career
you can have a general understanding about Spanish, but quite hardly to learn a fluent Spanish in a 2-year study
since most of your time will be dedicated in English
and your study quality on MBA might decrease too since you need to spend time on another language
for the rest are mostly outside the school
the business environment is almost upside down from in the U.S.
Fortune 1000 are mostly in the U.S.
and you'll see only rare global companies in the Europe but they're dominating the market
the most likely reason they are not that large in global scale but can avoid the U.S. competition
is due to the extremely complicated political economy environment in Europe as a whole
that the U.S. companies are reluctant to enter with such complex accommodation process
it'll be a very strange but cool experience
and that's another privilege to study in the U.S.
you're learning not only from the classes but from your live observation
feel free to shoot me email if you have questions
Hello everyone,
I would love to have your advices on my school choosing. I am admitted by IESE and Georgetown. It is a hard decision for me to choose the right school between IESE Business school (Spain, ranked #11 globally & #5 in Europe by Financial Times.) & Georgetown McDonough Business School (US, ranked #38 globally & #19 in US by Financial Times.) I took all of my efforts to apply both of them and now I suffer to give up anyone. I love to study in US but I can't ignore the future niche strength if I study in the prestigious Spanish bilingual MBA, on the other hand, I believe the fact of location is everything so that studying in US, in DC, will help me to broaden my life experiences. If it’s available, I would like to have your and advices from an objective prospective, please kindly share your thoughts and I would be more than happy to have your advices. Thank you so much and may all the best be with you.
Answer:
It's a critical decision since it's not only about the curriculum and rankings
but about the whole learning environment, culture, community...everything
and the outcome you're aiming at for your career
personally I studied in Europe before so I can share with you that it's a totally different planet there
economy, culture, business environment, legal structure, languages, value system, holidays, union system, recruiting process, people...etc.
especially you're going to study business, it's a big trade-off decision you'll have to make
I have friend study in IESE now, you may probably get more understanding about the school and the environment there
In terms of ranking, IESE is higher, one reason is the curriculum is more sophisticated than in Georgetown McDonough,
but not much since McDonough is also quite competitive on program design and the well-roundness. It seems IESE has a big bet on case studies that may affect in learning process, but it depends on how you value this approach for your study.
generally the curriculum itself now only plays a small part
since too many issues you need to juggle
although Spanish is quite a useful tool
it really depends on your future career, your learning capacity on language, and which part of world will you spend mostly on your career
you can have a general understanding about Spanish, but quite hardly to learn a fluent Spanish in a 2-year study
since most of your time will be dedicated in English
and your study quality on MBA might decrease too since you need to spend time on another language
for the rest are mostly outside the school
the business environment is almost upside down from in the U.S.
Fortune 1000 are mostly in the U.S.
and you'll see only rare global companies in the Europe but they're dominating the market
the most likely reason they are not that large in global scale but can avoid the U.S. competition
is due to the extremely complicated political economy environment in Europe as a whole
that the U.S. companies are reluctant to enter with such complex accommodation process
it'll be a very strange but cool experience
and that's another privilege to study in the U.S.
you're learning not only from the classes but from your live observation
feel free to shoot me email if you have questions
2008年2月7日 星期四
[Personal Branding]请问申请学校时要不要如实填写还同时申请了其他学校？
問:
请问申请学校时要不要如实填写还同时申请了其他学校？
解答:
要
许多申请人采取被动的避重就轻或顾左右而言他
打个太极拳乾坤一挪就推开了问题
当然也不会被追问
不过也错失了一次能够展现申请人专业度的机会
水能覆舟亦能载舟
这些问题是危机也才有转机
目的是为了了解申请人到底功课做多少
对自身有多少了解
对学校的适切性有多契合
又申请人的策略思考与分析能力为何
有做深度功课的申请者光这题就能拿到interview
再直冲admission
申请人对自我了解够深入就会发现
不是不愿意多选学校
而是真正能适合自己各面项能力,
性格兴趣,未来发展路线,课程切合性,
产业声誉与邻近性
选来选去不会超过五间
而这几间都是精挑细选并有高度的同质性
审核委员每天看动辄上百份申请资料
对同质学校一清二楚当然每间学校都有多重竞争领域
如行销财务创业...等等
但每个领域都有特定的竞争对象
申请人若生涯发展清晰
审核委员只要看申请人有没有填这几间学校
就知道申请人功课做的够不够
方向清不清晰, 又到底是不是真的要走这样的生涯路线
另一方面也会成为一项重要的谈判筹码
有高度竞争力的申请人能将各校特质与自身特性做完整剖析
不同学校依细项特质不同而采取个别策略
对招生学校而言会是一项取舍决策
甚至不惜运用奖学金诱因吸引具竞争力的申请人
两年前就有会计高手运用此项策略
运用会计第二与第三名校的奖学金来牵制会计第一学府
最终成功进入会计UT Austin第一殿堂就读
MBA In A Day網友詢問
問:
Hello 你好 我目前正在申請08 MBA 首先要先感謝你在傷咖上得資訊分享 讓我再申請的路上 受益良多 意外發現到你所推薦的MBA In A Day 個人覺得十分有興趣 但因為單價不算便宜 若是你方便的話我想請問 這本書主要適合什麼人閱讀充實? 內容主要的鎖定方向? 以及你對於推薦這本書的原因為何? 再次謝謝你寶貴的經驗 祝你 一切順利 新年快樂!
答:
這是一本非常好用的MBA工具書
作者Prof. Steven Stralser是前密西根大學行銷策略教授
富布萊特資深學者
目前在小弟母校敎創業與行銷學
小弟有幸剛好被敎到
教授耳聞小弟在華人MBA論壇網發言
因此授權小弟代言這本書
這本書原本是為一些大型企業組織的高階主管所設計的速成MBA訓練
因為他們所受的長年醫療教育或法律教育使他們無緣接觸商學管理教育
但卻要進行企業組織管理
所以全書運用很淺顯易懂的文字解說商學模型與原理
適合各類需要商務管理的人士
無論是MBA入門,職場經理人,或是高階管理人員
都能現學現用或是隨時回顧
全書主要分成四大版塊:
People, Management, and Policy
Money: Economy, Finance, and Accounting
Markets and Strategy
Systems and Processes
(細部項目於下)
這是小弟MBA連同多年自修所唸過的百餘本商用工具書中
可說是最淺顯易懂又能立即上手實用的書
由於各章節段落都可以獨立閱讀
又有簡易DOs & DON'Ts可以直接把交戰守則與禁忌現學現賣
因此相當方便
也廣受實務管理人士喜愛
也是小弟本身的少數重點藏書之一
隨時需要哪塊專業就隨手翻翻
翻到哪看到哪
每每都有新體認 相當有安全感
直接從http://www.mbainaday.com/線上購買即可
這本書還有一個速成MBA線上教學課程
四堂線上課程 每堂一小時半
原本是Stralser教授親身對大型組織主管所開的面對面教學課程
但因為後來課程需求量大增
教授分身乏術無法應付來自各地的主管課程邀約
因此開立線上課程 目前有折扣價 US$179
只要從網址http://www.mbainaday.com/連入線上付款後即可上課
相當方便
希望您也能將商學管理融會貫通
應用於未來事業
新年快樂 大衛
-- 書籍細部項目有: -Human resources and personal interaction, -Ethics and leadership skills, -Fair negotiation tactics, -Basic business accounting practices, -Foundamentals of economics, -Marketing strategies, -Advertising and promotion, -Effective communication and presentation, -Project management, -Information technology, -Using the Internet for business purposes, -Quality contril measures.
Hello 你好 我目前正在申請08 MBA 首先要先感謝你在傷咖上得資訊分享 讓我再申請的路上 受益良多 意外發現到你所推薦的MBA In A Day 個人覺得十分有興趣 但因為單價不算便宜 若是你方便的話我想請問 這本書主要適合什麼人閱讀充實? 內容主要的鎖定方向? 以及你對於推薦這本書的原因為何? 再次謝謝你寶貴的經驗 祝你 一切順利 新年快樂!
答:
這是一本非常好用的MBA工具書
作者Prof. Steven Stralser是前密西根大學行銷策略教授
富布萊特資深學者
目前在小弟母校敎創業與行銷學
小弟有幸剛好被敎到
教授耳聞小弟在華人MBA論壇網發言
因此授權小弟代言這本書
這本書原本是為一些大型企業組織的高階主管所設計的速成MBA訓練
因為他們所受的長年醫療教育或法律教育使他們無緣接觸商學管理教育
但卻要進行企業組織管理
所以全書運用很淺顯易懂的文字解說商學模型與原理
適合各類需要商務管理的人士
無論是MBA入門,職場經理人,或是高階管理人員
都能現學現用或是隨時回顧
全書主要分成四大版塊:
People, Management, and Policy
Money: Economy, Finance, and Accounting
Markets and Strategy
Systems and Processes
(細部項目於下)
這是小弟MBA連同多年自修所唸過的百餘本商用工具書中
可說是最淺顯易懂又能立即上手實用的書
由於各章節段落都可以獨立閱讀
又有簡易DOs & DON'Ts可以直接把交戰守則與禁忌現學現賣
因此相當方便
也廣受實務管理人士喜愛
也是小弟本身的少數重點藏書之一
隨時需要哪塊專業就隨手翻翻
翻到哪看到哪
每每都有新體認 相當有安全感
直接從http://www.mbainaday.com/線上購買即可
這本書還有一個速成MBA線上教學課程
四堂線上課程 每堂一小時半
原本是Stralser教授親身對大型組織主管所開的面對面教學課程
但因為後來課程需求量大增
教授分身乏術無法應付來自各地的主管課程邀約
因此開立線上課程 目前有折扣價 US$179
只要從網址http://www.mbainaday.com/連入線上付款後即可上課
相當方便
希望您也能將商學管理融會貫通
應用於未來事業
新年快樂 大衛
-- 書籍細部項目有: -Human resources and personal interaction, -Ethics and leadership skills, -Fair negotiation tactics, -Basic business accounting practices, -Foundamentals of economics, -Marketing strategies, -Advertising and promotion, -Effective communication and presentation, -Project management, -Information technology, -Using the Internet for business purposes, -Quality contril measures.
[Career Explorer]討論MBA畢業生(非美國公民)在美國工作有可能的出路, 以及生涯規劃
問題:
MBA是什麼? 真是一個很廣的問題, 不過不知道MBA是什麼之前我應該寫不出好的原因說服自己說服他人為什麼我要唸MBA... 從我認真爬文的幾個月的瞭解, MBA不外乎是一種整體的訓練, 訓練你應付數字, 訓練你應付壓力, 更重要的, 訓練你應付人 那全世界幹麻那麼多人擠破頭要唸MBA? 大家都是為了高薪唸MBA? 甚至有人形容MBA又可稱為"魔鬼就業保證班"? MBA可以給我的除了紮實的知識, 廣泛的人脈, 更多的機會, 更好的薪水之外我目前還想不到, 這個問題大家之前討論過很多, 如果有其他意見可以再幫我補充補充. 那我要紮實的知識, 廣泛的人脈, 更多的機會幹麻? 我認為是找份好工作, 那以一個international student, 又希望有美國經驗的人來說(我自己出國唸書很大的動力是來自於想看看美國人怎麼做事, 所以比較希望不回亞洲), 哪些工作是合乎期望值的呢? 或是先不管自己達不達的到, 至少哪些工作是至少讓ADCom不會覺得這人在作夢?
解答:
MBA是老美拿商業知識來賣的最佳產品
把商業的一切用學術研究的模式剖析
再回到商業實務戰場上應用
教學相長
要說他們一百年前創造出這個體制把商業當成一項專業學術甚至是一項藝術
人家這樣兩百年就成為經濟超級巨獸主宰全球不是沒有原因的
MBA的訓練課程基本上不是看出路在哪的問題
而是可以讓任何跟商業有關的人來念完都能運用在各種路線與職務
未來你想做什麼裡面都有教
但教出來成功的就那幾個人
知道自己方向的人落水三千只取一瓢飲找自己要的學
所以邏輯可以反過來思考
只要跟商有關你想要什麼出路它都能教
問題在你想做什麼
就像迷宮從入口乖乖走到後面會有N種路線找不到出口一直迷路
但從出口反走回來只會有一條
當然也要一步步走才會知道自己要什麼
從全球各形產業的1. 企業價值鏈與2. 職務功能來看
以下講到的各個環節都有無數種工作機會
看看各大徵才會來的千百種產業及各種職務功能與位階就會有些了解
最後再就3. 個人興趣動機與資質能力作結合
來找出路與方向
1. 就企業價值鍊而言
可以從橫軸的後端生產到前端市場
及縱軸的企業職務階層來做立體討論
橫軸從市場前端的業務,產品行銷,市場調查,品牌管理,顧客關係管理
到後端的生產從產地,勞工,原料,生產線設計,品管到全球供應鏈不論自產或外包OEM,ODM
中間各環節的倉儲與組裝管理到JIT系統及logistic後勤同步化管理
到跨橫軸的企業各部門組織管理與人力資源,策略幕僚不論國內市場到跨國跨文化進入與協商,
到企業外部的專業顧問端不論市場分析還是企業健康財務模型,組織重整,或風險管理
外部環境還有經濟政治法律道德非營利與能源環保等各項考量
縱軸是不論在橫軸的各個價值鍊關節上
都有從基層事務員到儲備主管,主管,資深主管,協理,副總,CXO到跨事務單位,最後到chairman
要個人的組織管理與領導力培養甚或創業家與企業精神訓練
每個環節都有專業也都有工作職缺
看您在整個版圖上的縱軸與橫軸上各要如何建構事業路徑
以及如何組合
2. 就市場邏輯與職務功能而言
就供應鏈前後職務功能可分出 (1)財務會計端 (2)業務行銷端 (3)生產作業端 (4)供應鏈管理端 (5)策略與組織管理端
想要賺錢第一步要先有人願意付錢
所以要從市場研究起
但要了解市場要先看的懂數字
不論公司內還公司外
(1) 先從公司內部數字的會計開始
會計基礎就有分財務會計與成本會計
後面要走會計專業的還有各項高階會計如法務會計,GAPP國際會計轉換,CPA執照課程,會計道德…etc.
出來想當會計師或回事務所做高階主管甚至進Fortune 500大企業幫公司管帳的除了這些還有很多專業會計工作可以走
再來看懂數字以後要有錢才有數字
要募資要投資就是這些財務課程
內部財務管理到財務週轉力與獲利能力,財務模型,組織金流與庫存循環配合,
到向外投資不論企業要讓人投資的投資人管理還是要去投資別人的投資組合
還是外部投資顧問端的企業整型顧問到評估企業回報選擇投資方向
或選定發展型企業進行投資回報與投資組合評估的Investment Banking
個人理財端也有投資組合管理與財產管理
還有風險管理的保險公司無論壽險產險意外險醫療險
要做跟財務有關的工作還有很多很多
看懂了錢終於可以到市場端
(2) 從業務作起拿東西起來賣小業務到做到業務主管需要MBO目標管理
產品遇到競爭不多瞭解市場會賣輸別人被迫關門
要先從市場研究起有分消費性市場B2C或產業市場B2B
市場研究有各大消費性市調公司不論產品還是媒體也有產業研究公司各種產業產品研究員
了解市場後要滿足消費者需要行銷部Marketing Planner 與產品發展部PM
配合公司高層策略方向與核心能力針對目標市場擬定行銷策略後研發(R&D)出產品
配合後端生產能力週期與成本訂出訂價策略
發展出行銷訊息後透過媒體或活動行銷(IMC)傳達至目標群眾
配合業務端營收資訊進行行銷活動評估並做顧客關係管理(CRM)
而後單一產品橫向發展成產品線甚至品類
要有Product Line Manager往上到Brand Manager
到高層企業策略Strategy Director會與第四項策略與組織管理結合稍後討論
要跟業務行銷相關也還有很多細項專業工作
知道公司有多少錢也知道市場在哪
要賺錢就看產品與服務
(3)生產端有原料管理,生產線作業管理,品質管理,工廠管理,倉儲管理
會跟(4)供應鏈與物流管理息息相關
產出後成品的品管,儲藏,組裝,運輸
甚至是Toyota六十幾年前發明的JIT訂單後生產免除倉儲管理
以及Nissan的展示間後門組裝前門車主直接開走
到全球原料管理與進出口與跨國供應源平衡等
原料有原料的PM,品管主管,生產線管理與工廠管理,
物流有物流同部系統的各職務項目也有主管職缺
還有生產與供應鏈也各有顧問端有許多產線瘦身與供應鏈最佳化的顧問分析師與產業預測顧問
以上各項職務功能都在企業策略與組織之下
(5)策略幕僚與組織部門管理包含人力資源與MIS系統
多半策略幕僚都是VP級以上職務內容直接涵蓋策略擬定
也有些是特助型的策略幕僚
組織人力多屬人力資源範圍
有人力資源主管負責組織制定,招募各層級人員,員工福利,績效評估,
也有生涯管理或美式的高階人力資源(獵人頭)
MIS系統多半是公司內部資訊系統整合
有專業服務公司樓主應該就在此列
但現在是產業同步化
是企業端,服務顧問端與產業市場端資訊整合
另外一門是企業領導人才
訓練企業團隊領導能力與管理溝通
以及最難訓練的企業開創力
上了再多課一樣有人等機會從天上掉下來
看了大家唸MBA好像很有錢途就跟著念
快念完找工作找不到怪校名不好聽
一樣有人念沒聽過的大學幹掉哈佛MBA成為川普接班人
也有人念了一半寫個business plan給教授被丟回來說成垃圾
結果創了個FedEx
也有人講念創業是個dream
世紀經理人Jack Welch光GE版圖就從破產邊緣搞到比台灣進出口總額還大
也是化工博士不是什麼MBA
念了MBA想做什麼都行
只看個人修行到幾成功力
競爭力不用多強只要沒人比你適合那個職位就行
沒職缺也能變一個新產品線出來幫老闆賺錢
自己創造工作機會
MBA是什麼? 真是一個很廣的問題, 不過不知道MBA是什麼之前我應該寫不出好的原因說服自己說服他人為什麼我要唸MBA... 從我認真爬文的幾個月的瞭解, MBA不外乎是一種整體的訓練, 訓練你應付數字, 訓練你應付壓力, 更重要的, 訓練你應付人 那全世界幹麻那麼多人擠破頭要唸MBA? 大家都是為了高薪唸MBA? 甚至有人形容MBA又可稱為"魔鬼就業保證班"? MBA可以給我的除了紮實的知識, 廣泛的人脈, 更多的機會, 更好的薪水之外我目前還想不到, 這個問題大家之前討論過很多, 如果有其他意見可以再幫我補充補充. 那我要紮實的知識, 廣泛的人脈, 更多的機會幹麻? 我認為是找份好工作, 那以一個international student, 又希望有美國經驗的人來說(我自己出國唸書很大的動力是來自於想看看美國人怎麼做事, 所以比較希望不回亞洲), 哪些工作是合乎期望值的呢? 或是先不管自己達不達的到, 至少哪些工作是至少讓ADCom不會覺得這人在作夢?
解答:
MBA是老美拿商業知識來賣的最佳產品
把商業的一切用學術研究的模式剖析
再回到商業實務戰場上應用
教學相長
要說他們一百年前創造出這個體制把商業當成一項專業學術甚至是一項藝術
人家這樣兩百年就成為經濟超級巨獸主宰全球不是沒有原因的
MBA的訓練課程基本上不是看出路在哪的問題
而是可以讓任何跟商業有關的人來念完都能運用在各種路線與職務
未來你想做什麼裡面都有教
但教出來成功的就那幾個人
知道自己方向的人落水三千只取一瓢飲找自己要的學
所以邏輯可以反過來思考
只要跟商有關你想要什麼出路它都能教
問題在你想做什麼
就像迷宮從入口乖乖走到後面會有N種路線找不到出口一直迷路
但從出口反走回來只會有一條
當然也要一步步走才會知道自己要什麼
從全球各形產業的1. 企業價值鏈與2. 職務功能來看
以下講到的各個環節都有無數種工作機會
看看各大徵才會來的千百種產業及各種職務功能與位階就會有些了解
最後再就3. 個人興趣動機與資質能力作結合
來找出路與方向
1. 就企業價值鍊而言
可以從橫軸的後端生產到前端市場
及縱軸的企業職務階層來做立體討論
橫軸從市場前端的業務,產品行銷,市場調查,品牌管理,顧客關係管理
到後端的生產從產地,勞工,原料,生產線設計,品管到全球供應鏈不論自產或外包OEM,ODM
中間各環節的倉儲與組裝管理到JIT系統及logistic後勤同步化管理
到跨橫軸的企業各部門組織管理與人力資源,策略幕僚不論國內市場到跨國跨文化進入與協商,
到企業外部的專業顧問端不論市場分析還是企業健康財務模型,組織重整,或風險管理
外部環境還有經濟政治法律道德非營利與能源環保等各項考量
縱軸是不論在橫軸的各個價值鍊關節上
都有從基層事務員到儲備主管,主管,資深主管,協理,副總,CXO到跨事務單位,最後到chairman
要個人的組織管理與領導力培養甚或創業家與企業精神訓練
每個環節都有專業也都有工作職缺
看您在整個版圖上的縱軸與橫軸上各要如何建構事業路徑
以及如何組合
2. 就市場邏輯與職務功能而言
就供應鏈前後職務功能可分出 (1)財務會計端 (2)業務行銷端 (3)生產作業端 (4)供應鏈管理端 (5)策略與組織管理端
想要賺錢第一步要先有人願意付錢
所以要從市場研究起
但要了解市場要先看的懂數字
不論公司內還公司外
(1) 先從公司內部數字的會計開始
會計基礎就有分財務會計與成本會計
後面要走會計專業的還有各項高階會計如法務會計,GAPP國際會計轉換,CPA執照課程,會計道德…etc.
出來想當會計師或回事務所做高階主管甚至進Fortune 500大企業幫公司管帳的除了這些還有很多專業會計工作可以走
再來看懂數字以後要有錢才有數字
要募資要投資就是這些財務課程
內部財務管理到財務週轉力與獲利能力,財務模型,組織金流與庫存循環配合,
到向外投資不論企業要讓人投資的投資人管理還是要去投資別人的投資組合
還是外部投資顧問端的企業整型顧問到評估企業回報選擇投資方向
或選定發展型企業進行投資回報與投資組合評估的Investment Banking
個人理財端也有投資組合管理與財產管理
還有風險管理的保險公司無論壽險產險意外險醫療險
要做跟財務有關的工作還有很多很多
看懂了錢終於可以到市場端
(2) 從業務作起拿東西起來賣小業務到做到業務主管需要MBO目標管理
產品遇到競爭不多瞭解市場會賣輸別人被迫關門
要先從市場研究起有分消費性市場B2C或產業市場B2B
市場研究有各大消費性市調公司不論產品還是媒體也有產業研究公司各種產業產品研究員
了解市場後要滿足消費者需要行銷部Marketing Planner 與產品發展部PM
配合公司高層策略方向與核心能力針對目標市場擬定行銷策略後研發(R&D)出產品
配合後端生產能力週期與成本訂出訂價策略
發展出行銷訊息後透過媒體或活動行銷(IMC)傳達至目標群眾
配合業務端營收資訊進行行銷活動評估並做顧客關係管理(CRM)
而後單一產品橫向發展成產品線甚至品類
要有Product Line Manager往上到Brand Manager
到高層企業策略Strategy Director會與第四項策略與組織管理結合稍後討論
要跟業務行銷相關也還有很多細項專業工作
知道公司有多少錢也知道市場在哪
要賺錢就看產品與服務
(3)生產端有原料管理,生產線作業管理,品質管理,工廠管理,倉儲管理
會跟(4)供應鏈與物流管理息息相關
產出後成品的品管,儲藏,組裝,運輸
甚至是Toyota六十幾年前發明的JIT訂單後生產免除倉儲管理
以及Nissan的展示間後門組裝前門車主直接開走
到全球原料管理與進出口與跨國供應源平衡等
原料有原料的PM,品管主管,生產線管理與工廠管理,
物流有物流同部系統的各職務項目也有主管職缺
還有生產與供應鏈也各有顧問端有許多產線瘦身與供應鏈最佳化的顧問分析師與產業預測顧問
以上各項職務功能都在企業策略與組織之下
(5)策略幕僚與組織部門管理包含人力資源與MIS系統
多半策略幕僚都是VP級以上職務內容直接涵蓋策略擬定
也有些是特助型的策略幕僚
組織人力多屬人力資源範圍
有人力資源主管負責組織制定,招募各層級人員,員工福利,績效評估,
也有生涯管理或美式的高階人力資源(獵人頭)
MIS系統多半是公司內部資訊系統整合
有專業服務公司樓主應該就在此列
但現在是產業同步化
是企業端,服務顧問端與產業市場端資訊整合
另外一門是企業領導人才
訓練企業團隊領導能力與管理溝通
以及最難訓練的企業開創力
上了再多課一樣有人等機會從天上掉下來
看了大家唸MBA好像很有錢途就跟著念
快念完找工作找不到怪校名不好聽
一樣有人念沒聽過的大學幹掉哈佛MBA成為川普接班人
也有人念了一半寫個business plan給教授被丟回來說成垃圾
結果創了個FedEx
也有人講念創業是個dream
世紀經理人Jack Welch光GE版圖就從破產邊緣搞到比台灣進出口總額還大
也是化工博士不是什麼MBA
念了MBA想做什麼都行
只看個人修行到幾成功力
競爭力不用多強只要沒人比你適合那個職位就行
沒職缺也能變一個新產品線出來幫老闆賺錢
自己創造工作機會
[Career Explorer]MS in Marketing還是MBA-major in Marketing
問題:
我想請問一下 ms in marketing真的比較理論嗎? 我看有些學校的課程 還是會有小組討論 暑假還是會要求要去實習 課程內容 我實在看不出來跟mba裡的行銷差別在哪裡耶~ 如果要讀mba下的行銷,工作經驗如果是打工可以嗎? 那如果從事的工作跟行銷沒有太大的關係,對出國唸行銷會有幫助嗎? (因為我怕一畢業短時間內無法找到外商公司,怕只能找到一般的私人小企業,因為現在感覺大學畢業沒有人要請妳的感覺耶~) 現在好猶豫 到底要選擇哪一個? 一個怕太理論 一個怕找工作花了太多時間,最後還只能在私人企業或從事沒有關於行銷的工作阿~!!!!!
解答:
基本上要念MS Marketing都是學術研究導向居多
因為MS這個學位就是以學術研究角度出發
是在研究有什麼新的marketing現象
或是xx公司的marketing plan有效或無效
跟市調公司功能有點類似
真正的marketing實務是需要完整結合行銷管理前後端
從前端real market到後端supply chain
從市場環境調查到競爭環境分析與品牌定位
到產品設計設計出來要打樣試產
連結到後端的operation management跟supply chain
不論是manufacturering or outsourcing
生產出來後試賣連結到sales force management前端的業務市場實戰
中間廣告的設計跟公關與事件行銷執行
牽扯到IMC整合行銷傳播
中期市調與後期市調要結合業務端
業績比對還要有整合服務善後的CRM顧客關係管理
大量生產後配合產品生命週期PLC的產品成熟期與衰退期
調整operation端的lean production以削減成本
做dynamic pricing的定價競爭
中間每個細微環節都是錢
所以會一直有個會計跟在你旁邊
你要聽的懂他的語言不然他會一直咬你耳朵
由於市場又是動態
錢不夠要找老闆要老闆沒錢或是根本不想給
就要找人想辦法去生$
另一方面為了看懂競爭廠商未來走向跟整體市場動態
所以就要了解財務
行銷方案很簡單誰都會寫照著framework 123就生出來了閉著眼睛都有
不符合市場情況就等於瞎子摸象
寫半天後端生產做不出來就是天馬行空不切實際
廠務跟外包廠會例行性找你康普戀
做出來了不符合客戶要求前端業務就會來找你打架說你在亂搞
在寫方案時每行字都是預算所以一直要跟會計勾心鬥腳
基本上這些實務工作經驗不足很難想像
本島主流想說不管不管先唸個碩士再說
反正大家都有越早拿越好輸人不輸陣
念完回來怎麼一天到晚跟公司同事處不好
業務來吵架生產來堵人
內憂外患會計咬耳朵
外包壓低價產品有瑕疵
等工作經驗夠了以後覺得奇怪明明學過怎麼又都串不起來
為什麼總是有人跳出來幫你串
等到發現了人家已經有了這個學位來不及了
已經唸了一個沒錢再唸第二個
是人家工作好幾年以後發現全盤情況
原來整個全球市場是一個大圓圈
行銷只是裡面看起來會亮的一小塊拼圖
掌握了一整手的power卻到處都會要人命
跟前後左右上下部門你爭我鬥
這整個串起來的實務學位叫做MBA
我想請問一下 ms in marketing真的比較理論嗎? 我看有些學校的課程 還是會有小組討論 暑假還是會要求要去實習 課程內容 我實在看不出來跟mba裡的行銷差別在哪裡耶~ 如果要讀mba下的行銷,工作經驗如果是打工可以嗎? 那如果從事的工作跟行銷沒有太大的關係,對出國唸行銷會有幫助嗎? (因為我怕一畢業短時間內無法找到外商公司,怕只能找到一般的私人小企業,因為現在感覺大學畢業沒有人要請妳的感覺耶~) 現在好猶豫 到底要選擇哪一個? 一個怕太理論 一個怕找工作花了太多時間,最後還只能在私人企業或從事沒有關於行銷的工作阿~!!!!!
解答:
基本上要念MS Marketing都是學術研究導向居多
因為MS這個學位就是以學術研究角度出發
是在研究有什麼新的marketing現象
或是xx公司的marketing plan有效或無效
跟市調公司功能有點類似
真正的marketing實務是需要完整結合行銷管理前後端
從前端real market到後端supply chain
從市場環境調查到競爭環境分析與品牌定位
到產品設計設計出來要打樣試產
連結到後端的operation management跟supply chain
不論是manufacturering or outsourcing
生產出來後試賣連結到sales force management前端的業務市場實戰
中間廣告的設計跟公關與事件行銷執行
牽扯到IMC整合行銷傳播
中期市調與後期市調要結合業務端
業績比對還要有整合服務善後的CRM顧客關係管理
大量生產後配合產品生命週期PLC的產品成熟期與衰退期
調整operation端的lean production以削減成本
做dynamic pricing的定價競爭
中間每個細微環節都是錢
所以會一直有個會計跟在你旁邊
你要聽的懂他的語言不然他會一直咬你耳朵
由於市場又是動態
錢不夠要找老闆要老闆沒錢或是根本不想給
就要找人想辦法去生$
另一方面為了看懂競爭廠商未來走向跟整體市場動態
所以就要了解財務
行銷方案很簡單誰都會寫照著framework 123就生出來了閉著眼睛都有
不符合市場情況就等於瞎子摸象
寫半天後端生產做不出來就是天馬行空不切實際
廠務跟外包廠會例行性找你康普戀
做出來了不符合客戶要求前端業務就會來找你打架說你在亂搞
在寫方案時每行字都是預算所以一直要跟會計勾心鬥腳
基本上這些實務工作經驗不足很難想像
本島主流想說不管不管先唸個碩士再說
反正大家都有越早拿越好輸人不輸陣
念完回來怎麼一天到晚跟公司同事處不好
業務來吵架生產來堵人
內憂外患會計咬耳朵
外包壓低價產品有瑕疵
等工作經驗夠了以後覺得奇怪明明學過怎麼又都串不起來
為什麼總是有人跳出來幫你串
等到發現了人家已經有了這個學位來不及了
已經唸了一個沒錢再唸第二個
是人家工作好幾年以後發現全盤情況
原來整個全球市場是一個大圓圈
行銷只是裡面看起來會亮的一小塊拼圖
掌握了一整手的power卻到處都會要人命
跟前後左右上下部門你爭我鬥
這整個串起來的實務學位叫做MBA
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