http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74393.1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
those of you looking towards II tier schools I want some info about UIUC, Wisconsin-Madison, OSU-Fisher, BU-SOM, Babson, Rice, Iowa-Tippie. My target is general management, technology management and from that management consultancy. How good are the prospects out there? My estimation about UIUC has been very high - the teaching quality is superb with heavy research on management science and the strong engineering department would be ideal for entrepreneurs.
A:
Some schools here are 3rd-tier. But all these schools have totally different positioning and program design.
UIUC is great at accounting, improved in the well-roundedness of finance, marketing and operation. Its fundamentals in 1st-yr is really tailored to prepare a critical-thinking manager step by step. General Management is multidisciplinary while fucus on soft human skills and decision process. Have good IT focus.
Fisher is a great marketing and logistics school that plugs in the whole value chain, from market side to operation side. Finance is good.
Madison is more academic-oriented with lots and lots of research centers. The curriculum is quite similar to that of BU that focues more on fundamental disciplines, a better fit for entry-level learnings. ASAP program for stock analysis is more dynamic, Operation is pretty detailed and HR focus is a big specialty.
Babson is specifically for entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs. The program is overwhelming that so dynamic and realistic for real entrepreneurs and simply provides you everything you need for literally any field of small to medium business.
BU SOM is quite a general management program, broad and fundamental, have technology involvement but not deep. Put lots of energy on managerial communications.
Rice is more a management consulting program that particular good at strategic consulting and energy industry. Marketing is good.
IOWA is a pretty balanced general management program, a bit academical but still practical. Marketing, finance, and service operation are good.
BTW,
UMN Carlson is a great general management school in 2nd-tier.
The curriculum is very balanced just like Wharton.
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[Personal Branding]Interview Resume: Chicago GSB
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74405
Q:
Is a one page resume better? I have had 4 jobs and an independent consulting experience, so a one page will not be possible without some compromises, but at the same time I am confused whether a 1.5 page resume will look unprofessional.
Any comments are welcome!
A:
Yes. The format matters. As a former scholarship committee for continuing students in the U.S. B-School, reading dozens of application packages was an exhausted daily job that even have no more energy to flip your resume to the 2nd page. We generally assume you have only one page, it means you can express yourself efficiently, unless you have really extensive experience that more than 15 years. Even a 16-year or a 22-year veteran can make it.
If you have a less than 8 years experience but need more than 1 pager to express your career, it may be treated as an ineffective communicator that both get deducted in your format score and quality score.
Q:
Is a one page resume better? I have had 4 jobs and an independent consulting experience, so a one page will not be possible without some compromises, but at the same time I am confused whether a 1.5 page resume will look unprofessional.
Any comments are welcome!
A:
Yes. The format matters. As a former scholarship committee for continuing students in the U.S. B-School, reading dozens of application packages was an exhausted daily job that even have no more energy to flip your resume to the 2nd page. We generally assume you have only one page, it means you can express yourself efficiently, unless you have really extensive experience that more than 15 years. Even a 16-year or a 22-year veteran can make it.
If you have a less than 8 years experience but need more than 1 pager to express your career, it may be treated as an ineffective communicator that both get deducted in your format score and quality score.
[Career Explorer]留學的時間順序排程問題?誰先誰後呢?
[quote="kksean"]
爬文許久，我很明確的知道自己未來要到美國唸研究所，拿MBA in Finance或 MS in Finance[/quote]
why?
and how?
[quote="kksean"](例如服兵役一年，例如托福成績只保留兩年，例如退伍先工作2年拿金融業的工作經驗或直接出國)，誰先誰後如果沒有排好順序，自己還真沒有本錢走錯這麼個幾步。
一、我該什麼時候準備托福以及GMAT考試呢?什麼時候報名補習班?[/quote]
很簡單 補習只是小投資習可以先補 真槍實彈考過一次以後就知道以後未來如何進步
GMAT跟語言都與年齡,歷練,與心智成熟度有關
先補過習知道方向 真實考過知道這巨獸到底有多龐大以後(遠遠超乎你任何想像)
自然會慢慢朝正確方向前進
才大三 還要當兵
托福是肯定不能用的
但是語言這種東西要有正確方向累積
要補過考過才會知道進步方向
[quote="kksean"]二、先工作或先出國？[/quote]
大概已經解釋了兩萬次還是自己爬一下文
http://mbacareerfitter.blogspot.com/2008/02/career-explorer.html
簡單說沒工作經驗怎知是唸錯還是白念
[quote="kksean"] (1.)該先工作兩年再出國拿碩士?如前所言，我自己是唸財金的，未來也不打算轉行，[/quote]
how do you know?
[quote="kksean"] 出了國還是要念MBA in Finance 或 MS in Finance。 [/quote]
again, how do you know?
[quote="kksean"]這兩種學位幾乎都要求兩年以上的工作經驗才有希望進入TOP100排名的學校， [/quote]
not necessarily
but do you know why?
[quote="kksean"]但怕自己退伍後工作了兩年，又花了一年做留學補習班的全職學生以及申請學校，到了出國時自己已年紀26左右，唸完兩年碩士又在學成後留美實習一年，全套結束都邁入29歲了，重新投入職場是否已嫌太老? [/quote]
why why why
it's impossible to plan all these in 10 yr advance
career is a trial-and-error process
the only thing you can do is test your passion again and again
then change accordingly
who told you you need an advanced degree anyway??
work first, then you'll find out if you need it or not
probably you need it, then you need an evidence
probably you don't, and you need an evidence, too
don't mass up with your career by an imaginary planit's only an imagination.
[quote="kksean"](2.)但如果退伍後，利用一年的時間只做個學生，全力拚托福和GMAT以各項學校申請行政作業，學校錢花下去一定申請的到，只是有名或沒名的學校差別而已。因自己想在畢業後能長期留於美國工作，沒工作經驗能申請並就讀的學校恐怕沒什麼沒什麼名氣，這樣留美工作機會是否就大幅降低了？又，如果必須回台工作，這樣的學位對金融從業機構還有吸引力嗎？[/quote]
again,
whywhywhy
there's no plan at all.
don't draw by any imaginationand
you need to know why through evidence.
[quote="kksean"]三、拿到學位也實習一年結束後，爭取長期留在美國工作有可能嗎?學校要排名TOP10? TOP50? TOP100?多少排名以內有機會? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]四、秋季班?春季班?該考的都考完後，什麼時候(幾月)開始進行申請步驟呢? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]五、3.0上下的GPA對申請TOP100或TOP50的學校夠用嗎? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"] 自己大一大二成績平均起來GPA只有二點多但趨勢是持續上揚，從大三以後GPA站上三點多，雖然目前只能盡力把在學成績盡力拉高，但先問問這樣還有希望進入TOP50或TOP100?[/quote]
you need to perform for yourselfnot for anyone else.
besides, no need to discuss now
Sorry to be cynical, but the world is simply not like what you imagine.
It's good to plan in advance
but not to over-plan
every single matter can change your life significantly
all you can do is to experience your life as broad as possible
and accomodate your career goals day by day.
hold your U.S. study thoughs until you can prove you need it
go to work 4 years later first
and find out the evidence what you can do and should do
test your passion if it's really finance
or else.
You never know until you do it for months and years
Some people don't even need an advanced degree
if you need it, you need to know why
only yourself can bear the responsibility for your career
for your 2-yr life
and for the investment.
爬文許久，我很明確的知道自己未來要到美國唸研究所，拿MBA in Finance或 MS in Finance[/quote]
why?
and how?
[quote="kksean"](例如服兵役一年，例如托福成績只保留兩年，例如退伍先工作2年拿金融業的工作經驗或直接出國)，誰先誰後如果沒有排好順序，自己還真沒有本錢走錯這麼個幾步。
一、我該什麼時候準備托福以及GMAT考試呢?什麼時候報名補習班?[/quote]
很簡單 補習只是小投資習可以先補 真槍實彈考過一次以後就知道以後未來如何進步
GMAT跟語言都與年齡,歷練,與心智成熟度有關
先補過習知道方向 真實考過知道這巨獸到底有多龐大以後(遠遠超乎你任何想像)
自然會慢慢朝正確方向前進
才大三 還要當兵
托福是肯定不能用的
但是語言這種東西要有正確方向累積
要補過考過才會知道進步方向
[quote="kksean"]二、先工作或先出國？[/quote]
大概已經解釋了兩萬次還是自己爬一下文
http://mbacareerfitter.blogspot.com/2008/02/career-explorer.html
簡單說沒工作經驗怎知是唸錯還是白念
[quote="kksean"] (1.)該先工作兩年再出國拿碩士?如前所言，我自己是唸財金的，未來也不打算轉行，[/quote]
how do you know?
[quote="kksean"] 出了國還是要念MBA in Finance 或 MS in Finance。 [/quote]
again, how do you know?
[quote="kksean"]這兩種學位幾乎都要求兩年以上的工作經驗才有希望進入TOP100排名的學校， [/quote]
not necessarily
but do you know why?
[quote="kksean"]但怕自己退伍後工作了兩年，又花了一年做留學補習班的全職學生以及申請學校，到了出國時自己已年紀26左右，唸完兩年碩士又在學成後留美實習一年，全套結束都邁入29歲了，重新投入職場是否已嫌太老? [/quote]
why why why
it's impossible to plan all these in 10 yr advance
career is a trial-and-error process
the only thing you can do is test your passion again and again
then change accordingly
who told you you need an advanced degree anyway??
work first, then you'll find out if you need it or not
probably you need it, then you need an evidence
probably you don't, and you need an evidence, too
don't mass up with your career by an imaginary planit's only an imagination.
[quote="kksean"](2.)但如果退伍後，利用一年的時間只做個學生，全力拚托福和GMAT以各項學校申請行政作業，學校錢花下去一定申請的到，只是有名或沒名的學校差別而已。因自己想在畢業後能長期留於美國工作，沒工作經驗能申請並就讀的學校恐怕沒什麼沒什麼名氣，這樣留美工作機會是否就大幅降低了？又，如果必須回台工作，這樣的學位對金融從業機構還有吸引力嗎？[/quote]
again,
whywhywhy
there's no plan at all.
don't draw by any imaginationand
you need to know why through evidence.
[quote="kksean"]三、拿到學位也實習一年結束後，爭取長期留在美國工作有可能嗎?學校要排名TOP10? TOP50? TOP100?多少排名以內有機會? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]四、秋季班?春季班?該考的都考完後，什麼時候(幾月)開始進行申請步驟呢? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]五、3.0上下的GPA對申請TOP100或TOP50的學校夠用嗎? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"] 自己大一大二成績平均起來GPA只有二點多但趨勢是持續上揚，從大三以後GPA站上三點多，雖然目前只能盡力把在學成績盡力拉高，但先問問這樣還有希望進入TOP50或TOP100?[/quote]
you need to perform for yourselfnot for anyone else.
besides, no need to discuss now
Sorry to be cynical, but the world is simply not like what you imagine.
It's good to plan in advance
but not to over-plan
every single matter can change your life significantly
all you can do is to experience your life as broad as possible
and accomodate your career goals day by day.
hold your U.S. study thoughs until you can prove you need it
go to work 4 years later first
and find out the evidence what you can do and should do
test your passion if it's really finance
or else.
You never know until you do it for months and years
Some people don't even need an advanced degree
if you need it, you need to know why
only yourself can bear the responsibility for your career
for your 2-yr life
and for the investment.
[Personal Branding]Chicago interview
Q:
David, Thanks a million for your help.
Saw several of your answers to others' questions, really helpful.
I will take the Chicago interview. In answering the interview quesions about Why Chicago, how do you think if I repeat some part of my written essay, such as flexible curriculum, the entrepreneurship program related to my career goals or the analytical strength?
Do you mind sharing with me your MSN? I really appreciate your reply and help!
Best wishes to your life and work in the New Year!
A:
You definitely need to correlate with your essay materials, while everything should be guided by your career objectives, which derived from your passion and personality. And you need to extend much deeper from your written materials, let the adcom knows you're well-prepared and strongly focus on where you're going.
You need to link both your short-term and long-term goals, and this path from where you are now will inevitablely need the irreplaceable Chicago GBS.
Flexible curriculum is ok, but it's only an open option for students, it doesn't necessarily help you on any specific purpose. Instead, you need to tell them which part of curriculum you need and why (for your career goals specifically,) and if your career goals need their resources like entrepreneurship program and analyticals, correlate the relationship among your objectives and tell them why.
Good luck and best wishes
David
David, Thanks a million for your help.
Saw several of your answers to others' questions, really helpful.
I will take the Chicago interview. In answering the interview quesions about Why Chicago, how do you think if I repeat some part of my written essay, such as flexible curriculum, the entrepreneurship program related to my career goals or the analytical strength?
Do you mind sharing with me your MSN? I really appreciate your reply and help!
Best wishes to your life and work in the New Year!
A:
You definitely need to correlate with your essay materials, while everything should be guided by your career objectives, which derived from your passion and personality. And you need to extend much deeper from your written materials, let the adcom knows you're well-prepared and strongly focus on where you're going.
You need to link both your short-term and long-term goals, and this path from where you are now will inevitablely need the irreplaceable Chicago GBS.
Flexible curriculum is ok, but it's only an open option for students, it doesn't necessarily help you on any specific purpose. Instead, you need to tell them which part of curriculum you need and why (for your career goals specifically,) and if your career goals need their resources like entrepreneurship program and analyticals, correlate the relationship among your objectives and tell them why.
Good luck and best wishes
David
2008年2月14日 星期四
[Personal Branding]拿到UCLA面试，求助！(v)
Q:
拿到UCLA面試，求助！
準備在北京做alumnus interview. 有什麼需要注意的地方？
A:
根據過去成功協助個案錄取哈佛MBA、及拿下耶魯MBA獎學金的經驗，
一些基本的學校狀況要瞭解一下：
UCLA走綜合管理與策略顧問、創業、IT、財務，與娛樂與體育，師資號稱世界級水準。
由師資多元化、研究路線國際化著手;
有研究中心與創業中心。
在課程走向方面，多以綜合概念為主。
課程邏輯著重綜合管理、科技策略思考、分析能力、團隊領導能力培養、企業擴張與創業，以及媒體娛樂等。
綜合管理課程相當重，接近一半。
財務課程也相形完整。
畢業出路以綜合管理、財務、顧問，及企業內創業或中小型創業為大宗。
領導訓練是由上而下以策略化思考，帶領團隊合作。
也有許多國際區域市場研究。
原則上，還是以自身的三大生涯驅力，投射出非你不可、且不會搖擺不定的長短程生涯目標，並列舉此使命目標所需要的領導管理技能有哪些;
然後說明主修畢業後至今的生涯轉折動機，及相關領導技能累積;
再來只要將目標技能與現有技能相減，就會自然出現Why UCLA，因為當初選校時，應該就是要照這個技能缺口來比對學校，然後發現這些所欠缺的技能只有UCLA及其他少數有提供，才會來申請這些學校。
否則，當學校發現愛莫能助時，即使申請人條件再強，也只能忍痛發出拒信。
再來是用你的生涯三驅力，來貫串出各種驅力所累積出的技能與經驗，形成進修時的對校貢獻。
之後繼續以綜合競爭力，與領導或創業能力為面試方針
強調自己的工作年資與管理經驗、團隊合作與領導能力、量化與質化分析能力，以及cross-functional跨單位整合能力，來提出自身的領導經驗與哲學。
面試後，可以反問校方經營與招收的策略方向
並帶出與UCLA師生互動的經驗中，發現值得學習的方向，作為結尾。
[Personal Branding]两个问题 关于duke面试的作用
Q:
我的toefl也到晚了，似乎错过面试机会了。。。。。
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Dear XXX
Thank you for your interest in Duke. We received your official TOEFL report in time. If you are invited to interview with one of our alumni, I will send you an individual email bythe end of my day tomorrow, Tuesday, February 12.
If you do not receive an email invitation to interview, it means that we were not able to accommodate your request. Please know that as interviews are not required for admission, your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview. The information that we askof appli cants in your application is sufficient for the admissions committee to make a decision. At this time, no decisions have been made on any applications.
All decisions for round 2 applicants will be released on March 7, 2008,and you can expect to receive your admission decision on that date.
Best regards,
Katie Madison
想问两个问题1）有没有参加了round1面试，但被拒或waitlist 的么？2）有没有没参加过面试却被录取的人呢
ie“your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview.”就是不理解额居为何特别说明这句
A:
很清楚是决定录取与否的审核过程并不要求面试
有被安排到面试的很好
没被排到面视也不会因此不被录取
所以没有面试到也不用担心
面试有许多不同功用
资源与人力庞大的学校能够100%面试所有申请人
但有些学校由于人手不足或有其他安排
无法100%面试
而在申请文件中就已经筛选出决定录取与决定拒绝掉的申请人
但当有些具有竞争力的申请人学校担心他们会跑去念别间
因此与其面试那些一定会上或一定不会上的人
不如把时间与人力花在那些犹豫不决或有超过一个admission的申请人身上
运用面试的面对面互动
以及实际邀请准学生莅校参访感受学校气氛
可以有效提高准学生的就学欲望
我的toefl也到晚了，似乎错过面试机会了。。。。。
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Dear XXX
Thank you for your interest in Duke. We received your official TOEFL report in time. If you are invited to interview with one of our alumni, I will send you an individual email bythe end of my day tomorrow, Tuesday, February 12.
If you do not receive an email invitation to interview, it means that we were not able to accommodate your request. Please know that as interviews are not required for admission, your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview. The information that we askof appli cants in your application is sufficient for the admissions committee to make a decision. At this time, no decisions have been made on any applications.
All decisions for round 2 applicants will be released on March 7, 2008,and you can expect to receive your admission decision on that date.
Best regards,
Katie Madison
想问两个问题1）有没有参加了round1面试，但被拒或waitlist 的么？2）有没有没参加过面试却被录取的人呢
ie“your application is not adversely affected by a lack of interview.”就是不理解额居为何特别说明这句
A:
很清楚是决定录取与否的审核过程并不要求面试
有被安排到面试的很好
没被排到面视也不会因此不被录取
所以没有面试到也不用担心
面试有许多不同功用
资源与人力庞大的学校能够100%面试所有申请人
但有些学校由于人手不足或有其他安排
无法100%面试
而在申请文件中就已经筛选出决定录取与决定拒绝掉的申请人
但当有些具有竞争力的申请人学校担心他们会跑去念别间
因此与其面试那些一定会上或一定不会上的人
不如把时间与人力花在那些犹豫不决或有超过一个admission的申请人身上
运用面试的面对面互动
以及实际邀请准学生莅校参访感受学校气氛
可以有效提高准学生的就学欲望
[Personal Branding]哈佛的ESSAY
Q:
哈佛的ESSAY
诸位前辈，想讨教关于申请哈佛MBA的ESSAY，特别是如何强调LEADERSHIP。 哪里可以看看过往牛人们写的ESSAY吗？
A:
哈佛的传统七题essay中都有一个字不断重复
叫做"defining"
要问申请人如何用您的经历来"重新定义"何谓领导
申请人需要有相当程度的厚实经历
才写的出这些回答
因为哈佛旨在训练能够开创新格局的未来领导人
每个学生必须要有高度开创能力与强劲领导特质
能够不断为既有的领导专业带入新定义
能够将领导力融会贯通到自身的哲学中
并开创出自成一格的新定义
是哈佛商学院所渴求的高材生
Testimonial 7
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27146&start=45
Actcard
謝謝大衛的熱情分享, 有問必答, 有忙必幫, 全力協助解決每個人的疑難雜症. 很多時候自己看不到的盲點, 在別人的眼裡卻是非常的清楚! 昨晚藉由閒聊的方式, 大衛引導大家透過一步步抽絲剝繭的問答方式, 從中發掘自己的motivation與core competence, 這樣的方式不僅是申請學校, 對於尋找工作也很有幫助.
Testimonial 6
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27146&start=45
Kikiwiwi
大衛的說明真的很精彩....很明顯感覺得出來他對這方面的passion 經過整個討論後，對我最大的收穫，主要在如何去重視與發掘自己內心的聲音，加上david的多家學校特性說明，可以讓我在apply的路上感覺更清楚、更具體了些。 畢竟MBA是個工具，但必須首先真實面對自己的性格、興趣，進而利用這個工具讓自己發光發熱，甚至樂在工作、樂在生活.. 真的是蠻棒的一次經驗啦。
Testimonial 5
http://www.chemy.idv.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=27146&start=45
wonder30
大衛講座太精采啦！ 我找到了自己最想要生涯規劃 了解到寫essay的盲點 大衛也給了我很多其他的建議和靈感 很感謝大衛無私的熱情分享^^
wonder30
大衛講座太精采啦！ 我找到了自己最想要生涯規劃 了解到寫essay的盲點 大衛也給了我很多其他的建議和靈感 很感謝大衛無私的熱情分享^^
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