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MBA數百萬豪賭,選校寫Essay苦無頭緒?
熱情生涯在哪?
簡單三步驟: 生涯三驅力,機會管理,個人品牌行銷
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2008年2月18日 星期一
[Program Fitting]问个学校,纽约城市大学如何啊?CUNY
Q:问个学校,纽约城市大学如何啊?CUNY
A:
纽约众大学中有三大系统:私立,州立,与市立私立有超强牛校如哥大NYU,也有排在州立与市立后面的学校而除了私立名校外综合来说州立又较市立学校好州立名校有四大: Buffalo,Albany, Stony Brook,及Binghamton 市立大学也一堆,但就属CUNY最有名CUNY若要讲MBA 是综合性基础管理课程选择不像州立学校那么多, 课程设计的深度也主要以入门概念式教学为主适合刚工作一两年的基础商学训练就自身内部课程比较财务稍比营销来的见长财务相关校友也多主要是地利优势在纽约市因此财务人士居多学费与课程价值而言不像前面学校那般高效能一门课四学分没修几门就毕业念的快出来也快GMAT大约600~650左右就能进去就读
工作经验也不很要求
一两年就能念
[Career Explorer]有必要换工作吗? (v)
Q:
畢業之後在一家不大的英國金融公司工作,工作環境輕鬆,薪水也不錯。
最近拿到一個HSBC匯豐銀行(北京)的OFFER。因為在積累工作經驗,還沒有申請過,不知道在HSBC工作會不會給將來申請美國的MBA增加一個砝碼。
而且計劃08年年底就申請,矛盾啊。。。年底就申請了,不知道現在還換工作到HSBC是不是在折騰。
真不知道有沒有必要。
前輩們給我點意見吧。
A:
要小心這裡出現倒果為因的現象
MBA不是一個追尋目標
而是一個訓練過程
申請人要知道未來生涯目標是要去哪裡
因為中間沒有其他方式能比MBA更快速有效達到這項目標
因此需要MBA
並仔細解釋為什麼會必須經過某特定學校MBA的訓練
公司名或是頭銜本身並不會有什麼加分或減分的效果
MBA申請也不是靠誰公司大頭銜大就進的去
除了職務內容要看轉職的目的為何
是因為目前工作內容只專精於某幾塊
有某些瓶頸無法突破
需要經過轉到新的職位取得補強
而新的職務內容跟舊有的職務內容結合
可以讓您往未來生涯方向更上層樓
而透過xx學校的MBA
可以將您這兩項工作所累積的經驗深度與廣度作提煉
讓您未來成為更有效的經理人
因此必須要找出工作細項的需求點與轉折點
跟未來生涯方向的關係
以及與新職務的細項邏輯來做媒合
如果會產生對生涯方向有更大效益的發展
並讓申請人對MBA能有更強吸收能力
這樣轉才有益處
[Program Fitting]Choices: what to do?
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
[Program Fitting]BW ranking criteria
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
[Program Fitting]Thunderbird
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
[Personal Branding]申請前20大MBA,GPA 2.9 問題一問! (v)
Dear all, 我這樣問其實不是很好,希望各位見諒!
A:
根據成功幫助眾多大學GPA<3的個案拿過Top 20 MBA獎學金的經驗,有研究所GPA遠高過大學GPA就夠了!
重點是美式MBA不是靠加分進去的,而是看申請人有多大潛能,並有多強資歷應證。
疫情前一切都要有GMAT之後再說。誰都是target 700,但target就只是target。
在美國兼差是很常有的事,只要合法都行。
除了少數免推薦信的學校為了吸引富二代以外,其他學校有要求推薦信的話,沒推薦信會直接拒。
而要想上Top 20 MBA名校,推薦信必須要相當紮實。
2008年2月15日 星期五
[Program Fitting]Some second tier schools
Q:
those of you looking towards II tier schools I want some info about UIUC, Wisconsin-Madison, OSU-Fisher, BU-SOM, Babson, Rice, Iowa-Tippie. My target is general management, technology management and from that management consultancy. How good are the prospects out there? My estimation about UIUC has been very high - the teaching quality is superb with heavy research on management science and the strong engineering department would be ideal for entrepreneurs.
A:
Some schools here are 3rd-tier. But all these schools have totally different positioning and program design.
UIUC is great at accounting, improved in the well-roundedness of finance, marketing and operation. Its fundamentals in 1st-yr is really tailored to prepare a critical-thinking manager step by step. General Management is multidisciplinary while fucus on soft human skills and decision process. Have good IT focus.
Fisher is a great marketing and logistics school that plugs in the whole value chain, from market side to operation side. Finance is good.
Madison is more academic-oriented with lots and lots of research centers. The curriculum is quite similar to that of BU that focues more on fundamental disciplines, a better fit for entry-level learnings. ASAP program for stock analysis is more dynamic, Operation is pretty detailed and HR focus is a big specialty.
Babson is specifically for entrepreneurs and intrapreneurs. The program is overwhelming that so dynamic and realistic for real entrepreneurs and simply provides you everything you need for literally any field of small to medium business.
BU SOM is quite a general management program, broad and fundamental, have technology involvement but not deep. Put lots of energy on managerial communications.
Rice is more a management consulting program that particular good at strategic consulting and energy industry. Marketing is good.
IOWA is a pretty balanced general management program, a bit academical but still practical. Marketing, finance, and service operation are good.
BTW,
UMN Carlson is a great general management school in 2nd-tier.
The curriculum is very balanced just like Wharton.
[Personal Branding]Interview Resume: Chicago GSB
Q:
Is a one page resume better? I have had 4 jobs and an independent consulting experience, so a one page will not be possible without some compromises, but at the same time I am confused whether a 1.5 page resume will look unprofessional.
Any comments are welcome!
A:
Yes. The format matters. As a former scholarship committee for continuing students in the U.S. B-School, reading dozens of application packages was an exhausted daily job that even have no more energy to flip your resume to the 2nd page. We generally assume you have only one page, it means you can express yourself efficiently, unless you have really extensive experience that more than 15 years. Even a 16-year or a 22-year veteran can make it.
If you have a less than 8 years experience but need more than 1 pager to express your career, it may be treated as an ineffective communicator that both get deducted in your format score and quality score.
[Career Explorer]留學的時間順序排程問題?誰先誰後呢?
爬文許久,我很明確的知道自己未來要到美國唸研究所,拿MBA in Finance或 MS in Finance[/quote]
why?
and how?
[quote="kksean"](例如服兵役一年,例如托福成績只保留兩年,例如退伍先工作2年拿金融業的工作經驗或直接出國),誰先誰後如果沒有排好順序,自己還真沒有本錢走錯這麼個幾步。
一、我該什麼時候準備托福以及GMAT考試呢?什麼時候報名補習班?[/quote]
很簡單 補習只是小投資習可以先補 真槍實彈考過一次以後就知道以後未來如何進步
GMAT跟語言都與年齡,歷練,與心智成熟度有關
先補過習知道方向 真實考過知道這巨獸到底有多龐大以後(遠遠超乎你任何想像)
自然會慢慢朝正確方向前進
才大三 還要當兵
托福是肯定不能用的
但是語言這種東西要有正確方向累積
要補過考過才會知道進步方向
[quote="kksean"]二、先工作或先出國?[/quote]
大概已經解釋了兩萬次還是自己爬一下文
http://mbacareerfitter.blogspot.com/2008/02/career-explorer.html
簡單說沒工作經驗怎知是唸錯還是白念
[quote="kksean"] (1.)該先工作兩年再出國拿碩士?如前所言,我自己是唸財金的,未來也不打算轉行,[/quote]
how do you know?
[quote="kksean"] 出了國還是要念MBA in Finance 或 MS in Finance。 [/quote]
again, how do you know?
[quote="kksean"]這兩種學位幾乎都要求兩年以上的工作經驗才有希望進入TOP100排名的學校, [/quote]
not necessarily
but do you know why?
[quote="kksean"]但怕自己退伍後工作了兩年,又花了一年做留學補習班的全職學生以及申請學校,到了出國時自己已年紀26左右,唸完兩年碩士又在學成後留美實習一年,全套結束都邁入29歲了,重新投入職場是否已嫌太老? [/quote]
why why why
it's impossible to plan all these in 10 yr advance
career is a trial-and-error process
the only thing you can do is test your passion again and again
then change accordingly
who told you you need an advanced degree anyway??
work first, then you'll find out if you need it or not
probably you need it, then you need an evidence
probably you don't, and you need an evidence, too
don't mass up with your career by an imaginary planit's only an imagination.
[quote="kksean"](2.)但如果退伍後,利用一年的時間只做個學生,全力拚托福和GMAT以各項學校申請行政作業,學校錢花下去一定申請的到,只是有名或沒名的學校差別而已。因自己想在畢業後能長期留於美國工作,沒工作經驗能申請並就讀的學校恐怕沒什麼沒什麼名氣,這樣留美工作機會是否就大幅降低了?又,如果必須回台工作,這樣的學位對金融從業機構還有吸引力嗎?[/quote]
again,
whywhywhy
there's no plan at all.
don't draw by any imaginationand
you need to know why through evidence.
[quote="kksean"]三、拿到學位也實習一年結束後,爭取長期留在美國工作有可能嗎?學校要排名TOP10? TOP50? TOP100?多少排名以內有機會? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]四、秋季班?春季班?該考的都考完後,什麼時候(幾月)開始進行申請步驟呢? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"]五、3.0上下的GPA對申請TOP100或TOP50的學校夠用嗎? [/quote]
no need to discuss now
[quote="kksean"] 自己大一大二成績平均起來GPA只有二點多但趨勢是持續上揚,從大三以後GPA站上三點多,雖然目前只能盡力把在學成績盡力拉高,但先問問這樣還有希望進入TOP50或TOP100?[/quote]
you need to perform for yourselfnot for anyone else.
besides, no need to discuss now
Sorry to be cynical, but the world is simply not like what you imagine.
It's good to plan in advance
but not to over-plan
every single matter can change your life significantly
all you can do is to experience your life as broad as possible
and accomodate your career goals day by day.
hold your U.S. study thoughs until you can prove you need it
go to work 4 years later first
and find out the evidence what you can do and should do
test your passion if it's really finance
or else.
You never know until you do it for months and years
Some people don't even need an advanced degree
if you need it, you need to know why
only yourself can bear the responsibility for your career
for your 2-yr life
and for the investment.
[Personal Branding]Chicago interview
David, Thanks a million for your help.
Saw several of your answers to others' questions, really helpful.
I will take the Chicago interview. In answering the interview quesions about Why Chicago, how do you think if I repeat some part of my written essay, such as flexible curriculum, the entrepreneurship program related to my career goals or the analytical strength?
Do you mind sharing with me your MSN? I really appreciate your reply and help!
Best wishes to your life and work in the New Year!
A:
You definitely need to correlate with your essay materials, while everything should be guided by your career objectives, which derived from your passion and personality. And you need to extend much deeper from your written materials, let the adcom knows you're well-prepared and strongly focus on where you're going.
You need to link both your short-term and long-term goals, and this path from where you are now will inevitablely need the irreplaceable Chicago GBS.
Flexible curriculum is ok, but it's only an open option for students, it doesn't necessarily help you on any specific purpose. Instead, you need to tell them which part of curriculum you need and why (for your career goals specifically,) and if your career goals need their resources like entrepreneurship program and analyticals, correlate the relationship among your objectives and tell them why.
Good luck and best wishes
David