http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306890&star=1#306890
Q:
谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia
拿到这两个学校的offer,
除了告诉我要看自己适合以外，
谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia? 谢谢。
A:
Dardan is top 10 B-school in the U.S. and is one of the most important core schools in management consulting and investment banking industries.
it's highly regarded in top consulting firms like McKinsey and investment banking like Goldman Sach, Morgan Stanley and others in Wall Street.
Darden's curriculum is also more committed in MBA program design, more sophisticated and well-rounded in general management, leadership, marketing communication, and finance management.
Entrepreneurship is a solid new highlight with deep commitment.
Strongly well-connected across multidisplinary management strategy and tactics.
Emphasize on quantitative analysis and consulting tools.
Case study is one particular highlight, but it depends on personal taste.
http://www.darden.edu/uploadedFiles/Programs/MBA/curriculumGuide.pdf
http://www.darden.edu/html/standard.aspx?menu_id=22&styleid=4&id=540
you can see the commitment when faculty explain the details of program design in 2nd-yr.
Duke is strong national school, generally ranked around 20. Emphasize on teamwork.
Good general management but a bit less sophisticated than Darden.
Particularly strong in bio-tech and medical industry.
Some people believe Fuqua is a great marketing school since lots of health sector giants have strong preference for Fuqua graduates.
http://ee.fuqua.duke.edu/courses/
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2008年2月20日 星期三
[Career Explorer]帮老公求助。37歲CFO 500強要念美國MBA還是中歐?
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306946&star=1#306946
Q:
想请教这里的NN们，
偶老公37岁，国内一所普通院校毕业的，8年管理经验，现在一家500强公司做财务总监，直接向亚洲区财务总监汇报。本来想让他去U。S或者欧洲顶级BSCHOOL深造一下的，一来圆自己的一个梦，另外也好充下电。。但现在感觉他身体没以前好了，看他在职复习GMAT那个痛苦啊，真是于心不忍；另外他老板也非常不乐意他离开，推荐信也是大问题。不知道如何是好。而且，我们是想移民的，本想读个好学校受认可，到时候工作也好找一些。
综合以上背景，大家帮忙给点意见和建议吧，像他这种情况：
1． 去美国读好的BSCHOOL的MBA意义大吗？
2． 难度大吗（如果GMAT大概就670左右）？
3． 中欧是否可以选择下？OR 欧洲？
4。之前还想过中欧的EMBA，可以在职，但貌似人家要的都是老总级的。
另外，如果以后想在香港工作，是读国外的MBA更好还是港校的？
谢谢谢谢，万分感谢大家帮忙支招！！
A:
37 is still a decent age for full-time U.S. MBA.
no particular physical struggle if you see the MBA age profile, almost 10% U.S. MBA students are in your age. The MBA studying is even tougher than GMAT preparation, and it's 2-long years.
GMAT capacity depends on personal intelligence and learning efficiency. A bunch of materials on this website for GMAT takers.
If your husband is already a CFO in a Fortune 500 company, why he still needs an MBA?
It depends on what's next for his career.
The only thing in his career should be to even broaden his global capacity, then a U.S. MBA should be more helpful, in terms of a more global economy, international language fluency, global scope of finance expertise, and a more competitive business training.
CEIBS is the best MBA program in China, so if you want to stay in the regional market, it's absolutely the choice. But it still depends on how competitive is his scores and application package.
EMBA is for senior executives with more than 10 years enterprise administration experience. So far your husband is frankly too young for that.
[Program Fitting]Choosing Between $s and Fit
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74454
Q:
I'd like to get everyone else's opinion on choosing between being accepted at one school that fits perfectly with my career goals, personality, and personal situation, and one that is a good fit in all these categories (but not nearly as perfect as the first) and that has offered me $s.
Some examples to help the discussion might be Sloan vs. Columbia w/ $, Kellogg vs. Ross w/ $, Tuck vs. Fuqua w/ $
A:
Half tuition is although a big incentive, it's almost only your half-year salary if you go to the very top school. Compare to your whole rest-of-life career, half year is nothing. It always goes to your true fit and passion if the very top school can offer. And if you can get offers from these very top schools, making $ is only a piece of cake while your career is half-guaranteed.
Kellogg is one of the absolute top schools that can make your career thrive even higher. Ross and Fuqua are of course great, but Kellogg is something $ can't buy. And that's the power that Kellogg doesn't need to offer scholarship that often to vie for brilliant talents like you guys.
Q:
I'd like to get everyone else's opinion on choosing between being accepted at one school that fits perfectly with my career goals, personality, and personal situation, and one that is a good fit in all these categories (but not nearly as perfect as the first) and that has offered me $s.
Some examples to help the discussion might be Sloan vs. Columbia w/ $, Kellogg vs. Ross w/ $, Tuck vs. Fuqua w/ $
A:
Half tuition is although a big incentive, it's almost only your half-year salary if you go to the very top school. Compare to your whole rest-of-life career, half year is nothing. It always goes to your true fit and passion if the very top school can offer. And if you can get offers from these very top schools, making $ is only a piece of cake while your career is half-guaranteed.
Kellogg is one of the absolute top schools that can make your career thrive even higher. Ross and Fuqua are of course great, but Kellogg is something $ can't buy. And that's the power that Kellogg doesn't need to offer scholarship that often to vie for brilliant talents like you guys.
[Personal Branding]面试官说2周就给我答复，是好事还是坏事？
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=306968&star=1#2780977
Q:
面试官说2周就给我答复，是好事还是坏事？
到时还没到他们通知的deadline呢
这种情况一般是deny还是accept啊？
痛苦啊
No special meaning on this timing issue
adcom cannot make any decision only base on interview
all applications need to go through the whole reviewing process
The notification timeframe is only a general guideline.
[Program Fitting]KFBS v. McCombs - Which rep is better?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74457.4&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
They go head to head in rankings, but in the real world who has the better national rep and for financial services, which will get me the better job?
A:
It depends on your career path. Both schools are well-rounded in general management, while McCombs is superior in accounting and KF is particularly strong in marketing management.
McCombs is now heading toward general management field and had pretty good improvement in marketing, but it's core competence remains in accounting.
KF emphasizes on teamwork with strong team building practices and collaborative culture that invites your family and friends to join KF community.
Since these 2 schools are pretty close in rankings, what really matters is not the rankings anymore but the detail curricula. When you see the finance concentrations under both mba programs, neither of them are strong in this field. McCombs is very generic that hits on fundamental theories and overall strategy like risk, investment approaches, real estate, and portfolio management. KF also have those courses and knocks a bit more detailed like derivatives, modeling, M&A, and private equity. But compare to those core finance schools, these 2 are in minor side.
Both schools are nationally competitive but have totally different positioning and core strengths. It depends on your own career goals. And no one can guarentee you a job. Only your own passion and capabilities can.
Q:
They go head to head in rankings, but in the real world who has the better national rep and for financial services, which will get me the better job?
A:
It depends on your career path. Both schools are well-rounded in general management, while McCombs is superior in accounting and KF is particularly strong in marketing management.
McCombs is now heading toward general management field and had pretty good improvement in marketing, but it's core competence remains in accounting.
KF emphasizes on teamwork with strong team building practices and collaborative culture that invites your family and friends to join KF community.
Since these 2 schools are pretty close in rankings, what really matters is not the rankings anymore but the detail curricula. When you see the finance concentrations under both mba programs, neither of them are strong in this field. McCombs is very generic that hits on fundamental theories and overall strategy like risk, investment approaches, real estate, and portfolio management. KF also have those courses and knocks a bit more detailed like derivatives, modeling, M&A, and private equity. But compare to those core finance schools, these 2 are in minor side.
Both schools are nationally competitive but have totally different positioning and core strengths. It depends on your own career goals. And no one can guarentee you a job. Only your own passion and capabilities can.
2008年2月18日 星期一
[Program Fitting]问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=293959&star=1#2777410
Q:问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
A:
纽约众大学中有三大系统:私立,州立,与市立私立有超强牛校如哥大NYU,也有排在州立与市立后面的学校而除了私立名校外综合来说州立又较市立学校好州立名校有四大: Buffalo,Albany, Stony Brook,及Binghamton 市立大学也一堆,但就属CUNY最有名CUNY若要讲MBA 是综合性基础管理课程选择不像州立学校那么多, 课程设计的深度也主要以入门概念式教学为主适合刚工作一两年的基础商学训练就自身内部课程比较财务稍比营销来的见长财务相关校友也多主要是地利优势在纽约市因此财务人士居多学费与课程价值而言不像前面学校那般高效能一门课四学分没修几门就毕业念的快出来也快GMAT大约600~650左右就能进去就读
工作经验也不很要求
一两年就能念
Q:问个学校，纽约城市大学如何啊？CUNY
A:
纽约众大学中有三大系统:私立,州立,与市立私立有超强牛校如哥大NYU,也有排在州立与市立后面的学校而除了私立名校外综合来说州立又较市立学校好州立名校有四大: Buffalo,Albany, Stony Brook,及Binghamton 市立大学也一堆,但就属CUNY最有名CUNY若要讲MBA 是综合性基础管理课程选择不像州立学校那么多, 课程设计的深度也主要以入门概念式教学为主适合刚工作一两年的基础商学训练就自身内部课程比较财务稍比营销来的见长财务相关校友也多主要是地利优势在纽约市因此财务人士居多学费与课程价值而言不像前面学校那般高效能一门课四学分没修几门就毕业念的快出来也快GMAT大约600~650左右就能进去就读
工作经验也不很要求
一两年就能念
[Career Explorer]有必要换工作吗？ (v)
Q:
畢業之後在一家不大的英國金融公司工作，工作環境輕鬆，薪水也不錯。
最近拿到一個HSBC匯豐銀行（北京）的OFFER。因為在積累工作經驗，還沒有申請過，不知道在HSBC工作會不會給將來申請美國的MBA增加一個砝碼。
而且計劃08年年底就申請，矛盾啊。。。年底就申請了，不知道現在還換工作到HSBC是不是在折騰。
真不知道有沒有必要。
前輩們給我點意見吧。
A:
要小心這裡出現倒果為因的現象
MBA不是一個追尋目標
而是一個訓練過程
申請人要知道未來生涯目標是要去哪裡
因為中間沒有其他方式能比MBA更快速有效達到這項目標
因此需要MBA
並仔細解釋為什麼會必須經過某特定學校MBA的訓練
公司名或是頭銜本身並不會有什麼加分或減分的效果
MBA申請也不是靠誰公司大頭銜大就進的去
除了職務內容要看轉職的目的為何
是因為目前工作內容只專精於某幾塊
有某些瓶頸無法突破
需要經過轉到新的職位取得補強
而新的職務內容跟舊有的職務內容結合
可以讓您往未來生涯方向更上層樓
而透過xx學校的MBA
可以將您這兩項工作所累積的經驗深度與廣度作提煉
讓您未來成為更有效的經理人
因此必須要找出工作細項的需求點與轉折點
跟未來生涯方向的關係
以及與新職務的細項邏輯來做媒合
如果會產生對生涯方向有更大效益的發展
並讓申請人對MBA能有更強吸收能力
這樣轉才有益處
[Program Fitting]Choices: what to do?
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74410.1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
Q:
I need some advice. I've been accepted to two schools. One is a low Tier 1 / high Tier 2 program that is fairly selective, and the other is a mid/low tier 2 program that is a bit less selective. I'm struggling to decide which one to pick because of several factors. If I based my decision on ranking alone, I would pick the Tier 1/Tier 2 school. But I am also taking into account the cost of attending, which is much higher for the higher ranked school, and the surrounding atmophere, for which the lower ranked school has the edge.Because the tier 1/2 school is expensive, I would have quite a bit of debt after graduating from there. The lower ranked school is much more affordable and I wouldn't have any debt after attending. Both schools have good programs, with the tier 1/2 school being a bit stronger. What do you think I should do? Go with the higher ranked school and take on the debt, or the lower ranked school in the better environment and graduate debt free?
A:
As an MBA program consultant and career manager, pretty much agree with Socovich that a good school brand can not only attract better faculty, resources, talented students, networking or recruiters, but also the commitment in the academic environment will be much higher and tougher that students and faculty are more dedicated to more competitive business expertise. Better guest speakers, better consulting clubs and entrepreneurial clubs with stronger funding, better program design...etc.
And Venture Capital, which is critical to entrepreneurs with very limited time, will also spend more time and $ on better opportunities created by more committed communities. 85K is a pretty average spending on MBA investment. Think about it, how good can it be if an MBA program only charges you 25K?? The faculty and facilities must be really low quality if you see the average salary of b-school professors.
It's not a big deal to have a 85K debt from a decent school, it'll only be your starting salary on the 1st yr if you have such a competitive training and good school name. Besides, almost a half of students are in the same boat, you'll see students with higher dept will naturally commit deeper in studying since they know they have to face the reality right after school. You'll earn it back fairly soon after a more competitive training and a good school title.
Although you have the entrepreneurial dream, normally it's fairly hard to start your own business right after your school. You might need a job to buffer your long-term plan, and start your business a couple of years later. Then your first job after school will be critical. You'll have a much better chance when you've been through a more competitive training, while the school name really matters when you're seeking a job.
[Program Fitting]BW ranking criteria
Just found this critical article on BW B-School Forum:
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=17&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73380
THIS IS TOOOO IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
--
Hi,
Louis Lavelle, the B-schools editor at BusinessWeek, asked me to post this message to you:
From Associate Editor Louis Lavelle, who overseas the b-school rankings at BusinessWeek:
Phear_me is under the impression that we used the difference between pre-mba salary and post-mba salary as part of our ranking methodology. We didn't. The data was presented in a table for information purposes only. The rankings themselves are based on only three measures--the student survey, an academic quality score (six equally-weighted measures: average GMAT score, average work experience, percentage of tenured faculty, average class size in core business classes, number of electives available to part-time mba students, and the program's completion rate) and a measure of post-MBA outcomes (% of students who say their program was "completely" responsible for them achieving their goals, whatever those goals may be).
Also, the argument that NYU should be ranked higher than it was because it gets students with high GMAT scores (which contribute only 5% of the final ranking) is ridiculous. You can always point to one thing about one school and say "see...that proves the rankings are ridiculous." But this isn't about one thing--it's about the whole Part-Time MBA experience--the quality of the students attending the program, the classroom experience, post-graduation outcomes...everything. And when it comes right down to it there were 24 other schools that did better than NYU using that yardstick. In fact, if I were constructing a ranking based on one metric, GMAT scores would NOT be it. They measure one thing and one thing only--how good students attending each program are at taking tests. If you want to know the true value of a program you don't look at the raw material going in, you look at the finished product going out.
Phear_me is entitled to his opinion, but if the conclusion that BW's rankings lack credibility is based on incorrect assumptions (the use of salaries in the methodology) and misguided analysis (high GMATs equals great school) he/she needs to rethink that conclusion.
[Program Fitting]Thunderbird
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=74419
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
Q:
Hi there, could nybody explain me why Thunderbird employment stats are so low? It seems that less then 50% of graduated students can find a job... How's that??thanks a lot!
A:
TB grad here. 1st is that most of students go back to their home countries.
2nd and the most interesting reason is in this small campus, you meet friends from everywhere in the world, so there's a tradition that the first 3 months after graduation, lots of graduates go somewhere to visit their friends in Thailand, Czech Republic, China, Taiwan, Italy, Nigeria, Ukraine, France...etc.
3rd reason is the VISA issue that most of the U.S. companies don't sponsor H1B VISA to foreigner graduates, while this is the most diverse school in the U.S. that about a half are foreigners.
4th reason is even the other half of Americans, they're not typical Americans that they worked outside the U.S. before studying here, lots of them can even speak Mandarin! Lots of them're seeking jobs outside the U.S. after graduation, too. And of course after the travel tradition.
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