http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74971.4&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
Hello
I have been admitted to the MBA programs at Babson (Boston) and UF (Warrington at Florida)
Please help me decide which one I should take (both are 1 year MBA programs)
Profile - GMAT 6XX, greater than 3 years exp in sales (outside US)
Target - marketing position after MBA in USA
Advantages of Florida = higher ranked (rank 37 in US news ) / marketing program is ranked 15 (in US news) / lesser costs
Disadvantages of Florida = since i want to work in the US, not a very strong job market for MBAs in florida
Advantage of Babson = good brand / boston is a good market for mbas
Disadvantages of Babson = higher costs / known only for entrepreneurship
Since the economy is weak , i am not sure whether an international will find a job in US next year .. so i might have to go back to my home country and this will make it difficult to pay the student loans
PLEASE ADVICE URENTLY
A:
although Babson is the best for entrepreneur, you can see why in their very sophisticated program design, it's at least 3 to 4 levels more advanced than UF, no matter in marketing, finance, operation, leadership...etc., whereas UF is not particularly weak but mostly fundamental generals in all fields. But it's good for entry-level, though.
sorry for being quite bias here, my sister graduated from UF and it's a great school. But if you're going to marketing, you'll meet lots of well-seasoned entrepreneurs with tons of real-life marketing experience, and believe me, as an entrepreneur myself also, you'll know how hard is the real-world marketing, also you learn about 30 times deeper than those fundamentals, while the subjects are still the same.
go for the more experienced, way more sophisticated curriculum design, and also more down-to-earth network. it'll worth it.
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2008年3月28日 星期五
[Program Fitting]IU, OSU, MSU
http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74702.10&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools
Q:
Hi Guys,
Its that time of making choices. I have been accepted at following schools
IU - Good ranking, great marketing program, waiting for schol info
OSU - great resources, strong ops and logistics, waiting for schol info
MSU- great supply chain and ops, bad location, full schol + stipend
Vandy - great finance, good location, 30k schol
I am an engineer and most likely want to do operations and finance...
Any suggestions are appreciated...
My profile 700/5yrs WE-Automotive/Operations & Finance major.
A:
Hi Harry
For some reasons, I believe your decision doesn't lie in these schools or which one has the best fin or ops or whatever it is. All 4 schools have totally different career paths for you. The main criteria is why and how do you need your fin and ops based on you 5 yr engineer background. It depends heavily on where exactly are you heading for, and what specific parts do you need from either fin or ops. How do you weight them and why.
Why would you like to go operation and finance as an engineer? these are totally 3 different planets. I believe the reason lies within your original rationale and it must be a good one, and it'll definitely be your criteria to choose these schools from. What's your goals and career paths look like?
IU has almost the best marketing strategy curriculum in the league, while it's really shining on this field that it's easy to overlook its strong finance. While Vandy does have almost 2 levels more sophisticated courses than Kelley, Vandy goes to experiencial and higher academic finance.
For the supply Chain and operations, OSU connects more completely toward the front end and market-oriented, and it's harder and tougher to balance through the value chain. But there's a weird part that MSU although has a better reputation on supply chain and ops, the courses seems smaller selection than Fisher.
But all these are only the school part. All that matter is where exactly are you going? what kind of combination or mixture do you need on fin and ops, and why that mix will help you achieve your career in which field? the school selection should be based more specifically on what elements do you need and why, not from any rank or vote.
Q:
Hi Guys,
Its that time of making choices. I have been accepted at following schools
IU - Good ranking, great marketing program, waiting for schol info
OSU - great resources, strong ops and logistics, waiting for schol info
MSU- great supply chain and ops, bad location, full schol + stipend
Vandy - great finance, good location, 30k schol
I am an engineer and most likely want to do operations and finance...
Any suggestions are appreciated...
My profile 700/5yrs WE-Automotive/Operations & Finance major.
A:
Hi Harry
For some reasons, I believe your decision doesn't lie in these schools or which one has the best fin or ops or whatever it is. All 4 schools have totally different career paths for you. The main criteria is why and how do you need your fin and ops based on you 5 yr engineer background. It depends heavily on where exactly are you heading for, and what specific parts do you need from either fin or ops. How do you weight them and why.
Why would you like to go operation and finance as an engineer? these are totally 3 different planets. I believe the reason lies within your original rationale and it must be a good one, and it'll definitely be your criteria to choose these schools from. What's your goals and career paths look like?
IU has almost the best marketing strategy curriculum in the league, while it's really shining on this field that it's easy to overlook its strong finance. While Vandy does have almost 2 levels more sophisticated courses than Kelley, Vandy goes to experiencial and higher academic finance.
For the supply Chain and operations, OSU connects more completely toward the front end and market-oriented, and it's harder and tougher to balance through the value chain. But there's a weird part that MSU although has a better reputation on supply chain and ops, the courses seems smaller selection than Fisher.
But all these are only the school part. All that matter is where exactly are you going? what kind of combination or mixture do you need on fin and ops, and why that mix will help you achieve your career in which field? the school selection should be based more specifically on what elements do you need and why, not from any rank or vote.
服務注意事項及付款注意事項 (僅為服務模式說明,一切行為需依照法律規範):
服務注意事項及付款注意事項 (僅為服務模式說明,一切行為需依照台灣法律規範):
* 所有隱私資訊均予以保密。唯客戶書面同意後，本工作室得依情勢公開部分或全部資訊。
* 在理想的生涯發展中，"自我了解"與"生涯方向"較"校名"更為實際。校名並不一定會帶來理想的生涯發展。
* 各項服務有效期限為該服務開始進行後起算一年。
* 生涯方向選擇為客戶個人決策與責任。本服務僅提供生涯選擇參考，無法提供任何結果保證，並無法為客戶生涯負任何責任。
* 由於學校申請與生涯選擇流程中之不確定因素繁雜，一切申請與求職之個人行銷服務均無法提供任何結果保證。
* 托福請務必破百。
* 申請進度與期限掌控需由客戶自行負責。本服務將盡力為客戶趕上時限。但無法因任何理由為逾時負責。
* 由於專注力時效有限，為避免腦力負荷過度導致效能下降，每次面談不宜超過兩個小時半。
* 除不可抗力因素或絕對必要需求除外，”Career Explorer生涯導航”，”Program Fitting課程媒合”，”Opportunity Fitting職能媒合”等服務,各以十個小時為上限；”Personal Branding on Essay/Resume/Recommendation Letter申請論文/履歷/推薦信之個人品牌”服務部份，文件修改每篇上限三小時(申請論文每題以一般難度，500英文字為基準；履歷表為一頁；推荐信依照申請論文比例計算。) 服務費用依長度與難度比例加乘，必要時酌收額外鐘點顧問費用。
* 本服務由於需要深挖地基，基礎服務價格門檻高，對於申請學校數少的申請人，請審慎考慮。
* 工作室顧問之母語並非英文，請申請者及求職者務必將英文文件交由英文母語之編輯校閱。
* 若成功錄取工作或學校，請配合見證文宣與宣傳活動。
* 為持續提升服務專業性以利客戶，本工作室有修改服務內容或金額而不先行通知的權利。
* 本人保留一切法律權利。
付款模式與注意事項 (僅為服務模式說明,一切行為需依照法律規範)：
* 服務價格為未稅價。
* 本服務為先付款後服務。
* 由於同時期服務人數有限，正式服務預約請先付訂金。
* 服務客滿時，恕不提供各項優惠。
* 本服務採行動辦公室模式，為節省客戶的無謂成本轉嫁，若會面場地有餐點費用，請客人自理。
* 如因故產生外出所產生費用，需由客人承擔（包含車資、餐飲、停車、燃料費用等）。
* 海外客戶之匯率換算，乃依收款當日台灣銀行公告匯率計算。
* 銀行國際匯款將有境內手續費與海外扣款發生，需由客戶自行支付。
* 若使用PayPal線上國際匯款方式，將有手續費產生，需由客戶自行支付。
* 為持續提升服務專業性以利客戶，本人有修改服務內容或金額而不先行通知的權利。
* 本人保留一切法律權利。
* 本工作室營利事業登記為「李信宏生涯管理工作室」，統編：72665547
* 海外學校允許申請人僱用留學申請顧問，請不用擔心。
* 所有隱私資訊均予以保密。唯客戶書面同意後，本工作室得依情勢公開部分或全部資訊。
* 在理想的生涯發展中，"自我了解"與"生涯方向"較"校名"更為實際。校名並不一定會帶來理想的生涯發展。
* 各項服務有效期限為該服務開始進行後起算一年。
* 生涯方向選擇為客戶個人決策與責任。本服務僅提供生涯選擇參考，無法提供任何結果保證，並無法為客戶生涯負任何責任。
* 由於學校申請與生涯選擇流程中之不確定因素繁雜，一切申請與求職之個人行銷服務均無法提供任何結果保證。
* 托福請務必破百。
* 申請進度與期限掌控需由客戶自行負責。本服務將盡力為客戶趕上時限。但無法因任何理由為逾時負責。
* 由於專注力時效有限，為避免腦力負荷過度導致效能下降，每次面談不宜超過兩個小時半。
* 除不可抗力因素或絕對必要需求除外，”Career Explorer生涯導航”，”Program Fitting課程媒合”，”Opportunity Fitting職能媒合”等服務,各以十個小時為上限；”Personal Branding on Essay/Resume/Recommendation Letter申請論文/履歷/推薦信之個人品牌”服務部份，文件修改每篇上限三小時(申請論文每題以一般難度，500英文字為基準；履歷表為一頁；推荐信依照申請論文比例計算。) 服務費用依長度與難度比例加乘，必要時酌收額外鐘點顧問費用。
* 本服務由於需要深挖地基，基礎服務價格門檻高，對於申請學校數少的申請人，請審慎考慮。
* 工作室顧問之母語並非英文，請申請者及求職者務必將英文文件交由英文母語之編輯校閱。
* 若成功錄取工作或學校，請配合見證文宣與宣傳活動。
* 為持續提升服務專業性以利客戶，本工作室有修改服務內容或金額而不先行通知的權利。
* 本人保留一切法律權利。
付款模式與注意事項 (僅為服務模式說明,一切行為需依照法律規範)：
* 服務價格為未稅價。
* 本服務為先付款後服務。
* 由於同時期服務人數有限，正式服務預約請先付訂金。
* 服務客滿時，恕不提供各項優惠。
* 本服務採行動辦公室模式，為節省客戶的無謂成本轉嫁，若會面場地有餐點費用，請客人自理。
* 如因故產生外出所產生費用，需由客人承擔（包含車資、餐飲、停車、燃料費用等）。
* 海外客戶之匯率換算，乃依收款當日台灣銀行公告匯率計算。
* 銀行國際匯款將有境內手續費與海外扣款發生，需由客戶自行支付。
* 若使用PayPal線上國際匯款方式，將有手續費產生，需由客戶自行支付。
* 為持續提升服務專業性以利客戶，本人有修改服務內容或金額而不先行通知的權利。
* 本人保留一切法律權利。
* 本工作室營利事業登記為「李信宏生涯管理工作室」，統編：72665547
* 海外學校允許申請人僱用留學申請顧問，請不用擔心。
2008年3月27日 星期四
[網站]新網站建置中
今年申請輪次已經幾乎結束
如果只靠申請學校這行來吃飯已經算是進入淡季
但好消息是即使是淡季
許多朋友還是來自四方洽詢服務
主要還是生涯管理是不分四季滴
哇哈哈
就像不知哪位大企業家的至理名言
"沒有不景氣,只有不爭氣!"
部落格免費又方便是沒錯
但是就是不太正式
來自各方的朋友很多都看過小弟部落格
但沒幾個知道小弟有在做服務說~orz
又有個不大又不小的問題
就是即使是谷歌這樣世界級的大站
大陸似乎還是不容易看到
所以還要再架一個大陸看的到的部落格
或許是新浪 因為很多影歌星都是用新浪的啦~~
小弟的服務網站目前正在建置中
還請各方朋友稍加等待
要咬著牙根喔~
阿~給它咬下去!
如果只靠申請學校這行來吃飯已經算是進入淡季
但好消息是即使是淡季
許多朋友還是來自四方洽詢服務
主要還是生涯管理是不分四季滴
哇哈哈
就像不知哪位大企業家的至理名言
"沒有不景氣,只有不爭氣!"
部落格免費又方便是沒錯
但是就是不太正式
來自各方的朋友很多都看過小弟部落格
但沒幾個知道小弟有在做服務說~orz
又有個不大又不小的問題
就是即使是谷歌這樣世界級的大站
大陸似乎還是不容易看到
所以還要再架一個大陸看的到的部落格
或許是新浪 因為很多影歌星都是用新浪的啦~~
小弟的服務網站目前正在建置中
還請各方朋友稍加等待
要咬著牙根喔~
阿~給它咬下去!
[談判]終於讓老闆點頭辦H1B嚕
辛苦奮鬥了一年半
從談實習到拿offer
到談薪水談分帳到正式透過律師辦H1B工作簽證
達到一個皆大歡喜的平衡點
只能說談判實在太重要啦~
目前律師手續還沒完全完成
但已經只差簽字跟幾個小手續
其他都已經大致完成
但是行百里者半九十
要堅持到最後一秒才算數
我是李小衛
從談實習到拿offer
到談薪水談分帳到正式透過律師辦H1B工作簽證
達到一個皆大歡喜的平衡點
只能說談判實在太重要啦~
目前律師手續還沒完全完成
但已經只差簽字跟幾個小手續
其他都已經大致完成
但是行百里者半九十
要堅持到最後一秒才算數
我是李小衛
[Career Explorer]无工作经验读全奖的mba还是有意义的?
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=313460&star=1#2840327
Q:
只是想个各位CDer们讨论一下，自己已经拿到了好几家mba的TA。学校排名不高60-100名之间，自己还要补1万刀的其他花费吧。位置在美国中部，南部。大家对无工作经验读后的前景都不太看好，我还是会去读的。我感觉美国既然是一个melting pot，只要有心是会融入这个社会的。我去后打算去在学习上读双学位或者读cpa,工作上intern尽量弥补一下自己的短板，多收集信息，争取工作。
学校排不进综合100，如果工作在家那里起薪也就3-4万，感觉有机会出去比现在留在国内好。
A:
most of time it's in reverse
the more experience, the more competitive you are
then the top schools will consider your package more solid
mba is not a teaching process, it's a refining process
it refines your experience to a more advanced level
the more experience you have, the refining can be more thorough
if you don't have experience at all
it's just like brewing an empty container
you may probably get very little crystal
the average salary is for graduates who already have 5 years experience before
and most of them are American
it might not reflect what you'll earn if don't have similar experience level
it's really hard to even get a job as a foreigner now
even in top 20
Q:
只是想个各位CDer们讨论一下，自己已经拿到了好几家mba的TA。学校排名不高60-100名之间，自己还要补1万刀的其他花费吧。位置在美国中部，南部。大家对无工作经验读后的前景都不太看好，我还是会去读的。我感觉美国既然是一个melting pot，只要有心是会融入这个社会的。我去后打算去在学习上读双学位或者读cpa,工作上intern尽量弥补一下自己的短板，多收集信息，争取工作。
学校排不进综合100，如果工作在家那里起薪也就3-4万，感觉有机会出去比现在留在国内好。
A:
most of time it's in reverse
the more experience, the more competitive you are
then the top schools will consider your package more solid
mba is not a teaching process, it's a refining process
it refines your experience to a more advanced level
the more experience you have, the refining can be more thorough
if you don't have experience at all
it's just like brewing an empty container
you may probably get very little crystal
the average salary is for graduates who already have 5 years experience before
and most of them are American
it might not reflect what you'll earn if don't have similar experience level
it's really hard to even get a job as a foreigner now
even in top 20
2008年3月26日 星期三
[Career Explorer]我是问题大全：GPA低2.5，工作经验短一年半，辞职备考有GAP
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=312637&star=1#2838671
Q:
大学是211外语院校，大学荒废gpa2.5，学校比较严格，据说不能删除成绩不好的科目。
工作1年半，第一个工作公司不正规，8个月时辞职。第二个工作是外企协会，做两个部门总监的助理，干了一年，其间机遇不错，得到给500强企业的销售人员做职业道德培训的机会，这可能是工作经验中唯一的亮点了。
但由于每个周末都飞各个城市培训，搞的我身体很疲惫并且根本没有时间复习GT。所以头脑一热在年前辞了职，准备专心备考，争取用好的GT成绩弥补GPA的不足。6月的G，7月的T。如果考完再找个工作的话，中间也出现了8个月的GAP。
另：本来打算自己出去，后来BF怕我出去后两个人会分开，毅然决定和我一起出国，要知道，他中科院工科硕士马上毕业，但是美国不承认中国的硕士，他出去意味着还要读5年的书，他家里穷，本想国内硕士毕业后工作挣钱的---总之，他为了我牺牲了很多。这时候问题又来了，他读5年，我2年，如果我申不到好的学校，估计很难毕业后在那边找到工作，那样的话我们就又要分开了，而且这次分开是三年！
至此，坛子里面问的最多的问题基本上都集中到我的身上了。
哈哈，人生啊~~
发此贴的目的一是鼓励那些因为各种问题而郁闷的同志，小妹我这样还继续在这条路上坚定地走着，因为相信自己的能力，因为心里，还有希望；二是求高人指点迷津，现在除了复习GT，我还应该做点，申请什么RANK的学校比较靠谱，什么以后的路，怎样才能走得更顺利。
真诚地谢谢大家~
A:
why mba?
you won't get another promotion due to any degree
the only way is to find your passion and stick to it
job also depends on characteristics
if you feel boring about the routine task
you should find some way out
but mba alone won't help you on that
since you'll still don't know where to go
find out your underlying drivers for management and market or PR
define specifically
make it realistic
and then improve yourself
it doesn't necessarily be mba
find out your real reasons
it's not sustainable so far
btw, the work experience is way too short
if you don't know much about business and management yet
then you won't learn much
Q:
大学是211外语院校，大学荒废gpa2.5，学校比较严格，据说不能删除成绩不好的科目。
工作1年半，第一个工作公司不正规，8个月时辞职。第二个工作是外企协会，做两个部门总监的助理，干了一年，其间机遇不错，得到给500强企业的销售人员做职业道德培训的机会，这可能是工作经验中唯一的亮点了。
但由于每个周末都飞各个城市培训，搞的我身体很疲惫并且根本没有时间复习GT。所以头脑一热在年前辞了职，准备专心备考，争取用好的GT成绩弥补GPA的不足。6月的G，7月的T。如果考完再找个工作的话，中间也出现了8个月的GAP。
另：本来打算自己出去，后来BF怕我出去后两个人会分开，毅然决定和我一起出国，要知道，他中科院工科硕士马上毕业，但是美国不承认中国的硕士，他出去意味着还要读5年的书，他家里穷，本想国内硕士毕业后工作挣钱的---总之，他为了我牺牲了很多。这时候问题又来了，他读5年，我2年，如果我申不到好的学校，估计很难毕业后在那边找到工作，那样的话我们就又要分开了，而且这次分开是三年！
至此，坛子里面问的最多的问题基本上都集中到我的身上了。
哈哈，人生啊~~
发此贴的目的一是鼓励那些因为各种问题而郁闷的同志，小妹我这样还继续在这条路上坚定地走着，因为相信自己的能力，因为心里，还有希望；二是求高人指点迷津，现在除了复习GT，我还应该做点，申请什么RANK的学校比较靠谱，什么以后的路，怎样才能走得更顺利。
真诚地谢谢大家~
A:
why mba?
you won't get another promotion due to any degree
the only way is to find your passion and stick to it
job also depends on characteristics
if you feel boring about the routine task
you should find some way out
but mba alone won't help you on that
since you'll still don't know where to go
find out your underlying drivers for management and market or PR
define specifically
make it realistic
and then improve yourself
it doesn't necessarily be mba
find out your real reasons
it's not sustainable so far
btw, the work experience is way too short
if you don't know much about business and management yet
then you won't learn much
[Program Fitting]可以給我學校一些意見嗎?（我想审请耶鲁）
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&id=313115&star=1#2838619
Q:
大家好， 我明年想审请MBA, 可以給我學校一些意見嗎?
因为我对MBA的审请不了解，请大家给我点议见。
我的背景：
Birth:1981
education:
1)BSc in Computing Science from UK (pass with 1st class)
2)Msc in Telecommunication from UK
Working Experience(3.5 years):
1) Engineer, A Telecomm Company (one of a telecom product Global Maket Leader) in UK, - 2 years
2) System Designer, Ericsson in Ireland -1years
3) Senior Designer, Ericssom in Swedeen （总部）, 0.5 years- now
GMAT:
考了一次：710
我想审请耶鲁 或 与之相近的学校， 不知到有没有机会？
我还要加强哪些方面，才能审请到？
因为我对大学审请不了解，也不知到还有什么学校我能审请。
谢谢大家！
A:
pretty consistent career
just find out where are you heading for
and what part of mba do you need
then why yale
Q:
大家好， 我明年想审请MBA, 可以給我學校一些意見嗎?
因为我对MBA的审请不了解，请大家给我点议见。
我的背景：
Birth:1981
education:
1)BSc in Computing Science from UK (pass with 1st class)
2)Msc in Telecommunication from UK
Working Experience(3.5 years):
1) Engineer, A Telecomm Company (one of a telecom product Global Maket Leader) in UK, - 2 years
2) System Designer, Ericsson in Ireland -1years
3) Senior Designer, Ericssom in Swedeen （总部）, 0.5 years- now
GMAT:
考了一次：710
我想审请耶鲁 或 与之相近的学校， 不知到有没有机会？
我还要加强哪些方面，才能审请到？
因为我对大学审请不了解，也不知到还有什么学校我能审请。
谢谢大家！
A:
pretty consistent career
just find out where are you heading for
and what part of mba do you need
then why yale
[Personal Branding]最后的UNC也被拒了，全军覆没。希望DX指点
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=13&replyid=2822958&id=311905&page=1&skin=0&Star=5
Q:
我今年也是申请了5所学校， 最后一所UNC。全被据了。我的G-680, T-101,9年工作经验，还有6年Intel的工作经验。本以为能申请到一所学校。但是我想明年再试一次。希望DX们给些好的建议，以便提高明年申请的成功率。
A:
you need to explain "why you"
why this logic is particular for you
what's your personal characteristics, passion, skill sets, experience...etc.
everything
what part of business knowledge?
be very specific
why the industrialization of chip needs you here?
why not others?
and why you need this mba?
Q:
我今年也是申请了5所学校， 最后一所UNC。全被据了。我的G-680, T-101,9年工作经验，还有6年Intel的工作经验。本以为能申请到一所学校。但是我想明年再试一次。希望DX们给些好的建议，以便提高明年申请的成功率。
A:
you need to explain "why you"
why this logic is particular for you
what's your personal characteristics, passion, skill sets, experience...etc.
everything
what part of business knowledge?
be very specific
why the industrialization of chip needs you here?
why not others?
and why you need this mba?
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